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Old 01-15-2016, 10:06 AM   #241
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I did once, for a state-wide office. He resigned in disgrace.


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...if my primary vote counted.
Dude. No shit. June primary here.

But that takes the heat off me to make any real decision.
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You know, I don't even know what "New York value" is. Is he talking about Bernie? or.......Lou Reed?
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You know, I don't even know what "New York value" is. Is he talking about Bernie? or.......Lou Reed?


former Atlanta Braves Pitcher John Rocker explains:

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On ever playing for a New York team: "I would retire first. It's the most hectic, nerve-racking city. Imagine having to take the [Number] 7 train to the ballpark, looking like you're [riding through] Beirut next to some kid with purple hair next to some queer with AIDS right next to some dude who just got out of jail for the fourth time right next to some 20-year-old mom with four kids. It's depressing."

On New York City itself: "The biggest thing I don't like about New York are the foreigners. I'm not a very big fan of foreigners. You can walk an entire block in Times Square and not hear anybody speaking English. Asians and Koreans and Vietnamese and Indians and Russians and Spanish people and everything up there. How the hell did they get in this country?"

On Mets fans: "Nowhere else in the country do people spit at you, throw bottles at you, throw quarters at you, throw batteries at you and say, 'Hey, I did your mother last night -- she's a whore.' I talked about what degenerates they were, and they proved me right. Just by saying something, I could make them mad enough to go home and slap their moms."

prescient, really, of the modern day Republican party. single mothers, "queers," foreigners. these are new york values.
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Haha. Rocker, forgot about him


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A Trump or Cruz candidacy all but guarantees a D in the White House until 2020. This is where the more moderate Clinton would sweep the purple states.

One could argue, however, that this would present an opportunity for a real progressive (Sanders) in the WH because the competition will be so weak. But, gosh, that's some high risk/high reward going on there.

HRC should choose Bernie as her VP. Take his white college kids.

There is still a world in which Rubio is the nominee.



This is an amazing tool in understanding how voter turnout among different groups can shift the electoral map. I encourage everyone to check it out.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...-the-election/

Trump is exciting non-college degree whites that have had a lower voter turnout in 2012. A bump in turnout by 5% and 5% towards the gop leads to a Trump landslide if the other variables remain the same as 2012.


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This is an amazing tool in understanding how voter turnout among different groups can shift the electoral map. I encourage everyone to check it out.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...-the-election/

Trump is exciting non-college degree whites that have had a lower voter turnout in 2012. A bump in turnout by 5% and 5% towards the gop leads to a Trump landslide if the other variables remain the same as 2012.


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One thing you should factor in is the fact that Muslim voting would increase by at least 5% to ensure they can stay safe/not get deported.
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Trump is exciting non-college degree whites that have had a lower voter turnout in 2012. A bump in turnout by 5% and 5% towards the gop leads to a Trump landslide if the other variables remain the same as 2012.


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He excites uneducated whites? Shocked!

That's making huge assumptions others don't stay home. Women and evangelicals?


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This is an amazing tool in understanding how voter turnout among different groups can shift the electoral map. I encourage everyone to check it out.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...-the-election/

Trump is exciting non-college degree whites that have had a lower voter turnout in 2012. A bump in turnout by 5% and 5% towards the gop leads to a Trump landslide if the other variables remain the same as 2012.


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it's definitely interesting. although every candidate comes with some baggage, so with Trump, i think you'd see an increase of Latino voters turning out and voting democratic. the Trump rally cry of "What do we want?" "A WALL!!!" "Who's gonna build it?" "MEXICO!!!" call-and-response is pretty repugnant, and will be a great way to make sure that NV, CO, and NM all stay blue.
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Come on, Headache. You know Republicans only care about New York when they're talking about 9/11.
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it's definitely interesting. although every candidate comes with some baggage, so with Trump, i think you'd see an increase of Latino voters turning out and voting democratic. the Trump rally cry of "What do we want?" "A WALL!!!" "Who's gonna build it?" "MEXICO!!!" call-and-response is pretty repugnant, and will be a great way to make sure that NV, CO, and NM all stay blue.

We're assuming American born Latinos who have been here for generations, are cool with illegals coming in and the Feds giving them free stuff just because they share a common language.

I think the Latino demographic is not as uniform as you make it out to be.



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We're assuming American born Latinos who have been here for generations, are cool with illegals coming in and the Feds giving them free stuff just because they share a common language.

I think the Latino demographic is not as uniform as you make it out to be.



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History shows that Hispanics will not vote for those that speak of building walls. And it has very little to do with being ok with people coming in illegally and getting free stuff, but more to do with what the wall represents and the rhetoric that comes with it. Plus Trump has doubled down on his anti-Mexico and I'm sure SOME are good people rhetoric. He's even lost a percentage of Hispanics that would normally vote Republican.


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History shows that Hispanics will not vote for those that speak of building walls. And it has very little to do with being ok with people coming in illegally and getting free stuff, but more to do with what the wall represents and the rhetoric that comes with it. Plus Trump has doubled down on his anti-Mexico and I'm sure SOME are good people rhetoric. He's even lost a percentage of Hispanics that would normally vote Republican.


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Can you provide a "citation" for the this History you speak of ?
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We're assuming American born Latinos who have been here for generations, are cool with illegals coming in and the Feds giving them free stuff just because they share a common language.

I think the Latino demographic is not as uniform as you make it out to be.



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