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Old 10-26-2008, 08:50 PM   #376
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It strikes me more like an opinionated and biased poster (and most posters are, myself included) has been given mod privileges and continues to behave to other posters such as diamond, financeguy and the slew of Rush-lites as he used too, the only problem is that now he has a big stick in his hands which forces one to be extra-judicious in response.
My response to this would be that yes, I obviously have biases as does everyone else. And I will continue taking part in discussions, and am allowed to disagree with other posters still. However, and I think my history here bears this out - I do not engage in personal attacks but instead argue the content of the posts. If people do the same in return, then it makes absolutely no difference who is carrying the big stick.

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Old 10-26-2008, 11:17 PM   #377
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That's marvellous. The author couldn't come up with anything to refute Biden's argument, so he went for the ludicrous.

And once again, Germany is clearly Marxist, too. Who wonders, after all he was German.
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. That's pretty much the philosophy behind our entire tax system. And we are not ashamed about it.

And people think Sweden is socialist? Get some education and then try again opening your mouth. Learn the difference between socialism and social democratism, already!
Socialism is not communism. Most Political scientists look at socialism as democratic and communism as dictatorial. When someone says I want to spread the wealth around it's a legitimate question.

I also enjoyed it because I like people to taste their own medicine. Palin went through so much worse.

Also the Obama/Biden camp announced they won't be doing interviews with that station.

Fairness Doctrine anyone?

Here's another guy who gets angry at tough questions.

YouTube - Bill Clinton Fox News Sunday Interview w/ Chris Wallace pt1

YouTube - Bill Clinton Fox News Sunday Interview w/ Chris Wallace pt2
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:31 PM   #378
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Also the Obama/Biden camp announced they won't be doing interviews with that station.

Fairness Doctrine anyone?
What does this have to do with the Fairness Doctine? Or Bill Clinton?
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I also enjoyed it because I like people to taste their own medicine. Palin went through so much worse.
A taste of their own medicine? Did Biden personally interview Palin? Besides, if getting asked tough questions is the medicine in question here, then I think someone gave Palin a placebo.
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Fairness Doctrine anyone?
AFAIK the Fairness Doctrine's been dead since Reagan killed it back in the 80's.
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A taste of their own medicine? Did Biden personally interview Palin? Besides, if getting asked tough questions is the medicine in question here, then I think someone gave Palin a placebo.

They're not tough questions, and neither were the ones asked of Palin.
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I agree that these aren't tough questions. They were presented as such, but I don't think a question arguing that Obama is a Marxist qualifies as all that tough.
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Socialism is not communism. Most Political scientists look at socialism as democratic and communism as dictatorial. When someone says I want to spread the wealth around it's a legitimate question.

I also enjoyed it because I like people to taste their own medicine. Palin went through so much worse.

Also the Obama/Biden camp announced they won't be doing interviews with that station.
It's not communism, yet it is not the political form of Sweden. "Spreading wealth", or a fair income distribution, is not equal to socialism. It's dishonest, and I don't think any political scientist would do the same, to take that principle and attribute it solely to socialism.
A socialist state and a social-democratic state (and Sweden plays a special role in that kind of politics) are not to be confused, mixed or deliberately put as one.
And don't kid yourself, to call something, anything, socialism when it comes to US politics is clearly intended to move the direction into a particular direction. It's no secret that you just have to try to imply socialism and some people will think twice about who they are voting for.

I don't get the "own medicine" line either. Palin got at least intelligent questions which she should be able to answer. Her answers were awful. But it wasn't Biden or the democratic campaign that asked those questions.

The questions went clearly beyond just asking tough questions, they were outright unintelligent. I could understand the Republican campaign as well if they decided not to take questions by that station again.
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It's not communism, yet it is not the political form of Sweden. "Spreading wealth", or a fair income distribution, is not equal to socialism.

I really don't know what things are like in Germany or Sweden

and I would not call Obama a Marxist or even a socialist

I do believe it is safe to say that most Americans do not believe it is the job of the American Government to be involved in "the redistribution of wealth".

I don't know what you are doing in Montana, perhaps you are on a college campus, where the concept of "the redistribution of wealth" does not alarm students.

But I am certain that if you ask the typical person on the street, they will not favor the concept at all.
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He’s going to take money away from Joe the Plumber and give it to gays who are going to use it to come around and take away Joe the Plumbers guns. Or something like that. And then the revolution begins!
PALIN/HANNITY 2012!
Are none of you patriots?!?
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It's not communism, yet it is not the political form of Sweden. "Spreading wealth", or a fair income distribution, is not equal to socialism. It's dishonest, and I don't think any political scientist would do the same, to take that principle and attribute it solely to socialism.
Clearly those political scientists would be part of the elite.
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I do believe it is safe to say that most Americans do not believe it is the job of the American Government to be involved in "the redistribution of wealth".



But I am certain that if you ask the typical person on the street, they will not favor the concept at all.
Can I ask them about redistributing my tax dollars to bankers?
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I really don't know what things are like in Germany or Sweden

and I would not call Obama a Marxist or even a socialist

I do believe it is safe to say that most Americans do not believe it is the job of the American Government to be involved in "the redistribution of wealth".

I don't know what you are doing in Montana, perhaps you are on a college campus, where the concept of "the redistribution of wealth" does not alarm students.

But I am certain that if you ask the typical person on the street, they will not favor the concept at all.


what do you think taxes do?
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what do you think taxes do?


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it was a collective "you," btw.

i think deep knows what taxes do.

this is a pet peeve i have with Americans en masse. it's as if they think roads pave themselves.
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