You shouldn't joke of such things.
McCain will continue to spend on Iraq, Obama will spend on things that actually matter, and not America stubbornly insisting it was a good idea.
Well, I sadly believe Obama has a ceiling that cannot be cracked. I hope I am wrong, but, I think there is enough racisim in the world, that things may be different when people go to vote verses the polls.
I would gladly vote for McCain/Palin if:
a) They were pro-choice
b) They were pro-helping PEOPLE as opposed to rewarding businesses which are already shipping jobs overseas
c) They renounce abortion clinic bombers and internaitonal terrorist Oliver North unequivocally
d) Put this Diamond married to a goat thing to bed*
*I really hope Diamond doesn't whip anything out
By the way, the birth certificate thing is already in bed, only a few far right kooks think it's an open issue
Afghanistan will be more difficult than Iraq since most of Iraq has been handed off to their own military,
I don't know where you got the idea that Iraq has been largely handed off to their own military but that's simply incorrect.
The only thing keeping the country somewhat stable right now is the fact that there's 230,000 U.S. troops in there. Take your pick: pull them out in 100years from now and watch the country tear itself apart, in the meantime have thousands of more U.S. soldiers die, or take them out in the next 2 years, and then the country will desolve into chaos.
It's a no win situation, but if the U.S. leaves now, at least there will be far fewer U.S. casualties.
Do you really think Bush or McCain think the U.S. can "win"? What is even the definition of "winning" for Iraq anyway? Have them singing "We Are The World" while holding hands and watching American football? Please. They both know what the probable outcome is but neither wants that day of leaving Iraq on their hands.
The surge worked? Ok, but now what? Once you start removing troops it's going to start all over again.
Gee W, you really screwed us good, didn't ya?
Thanks for the memories.
Well that's definately the liberal point of view and you covered much of what many Americans think.
What the conservatives think is that Democrats want to leave Iraq and Afghaninstan too soon so they rip each other apart and then they can blame Bush. Then the next time America gets attacked it won't go to war at all.
Bush certainly didn't invent the idea of the surge and he was naive about the culture in the middle east and compared reformation there to Japan after WWII. He also elongated the war by having tactics to taking ground only to move back later. This force the U.S. to fight over the same ground more than once. These lessons have been learned and Conservatives want to apply them in Afghanistan. If there is a pull out that won't matter.
There is an opportunity for Obama if he completes a surge after withdrawing from Iraq to secure Afghanistan. If democrats believe that leaving Iraq has more to do with the fact that the U.S. shouldn't have went in the first place then at least finish in Afghanistan. Most democrats were okay with the war in Afghanistan.
BBC NEWS | Middle East | US forces hand province to Iraqis
Includes map of Iraqi controlled areas.
Guys, I don't know if you've seen this yet, but I hope this is the future of presidential candidate debates. I'd be more inclined to watch, and less inclined to drink myself to a state of numb indifference.
YouTube - Obama and McCain - Dance Off!
What the conservatives think is that Democrats want to leave Iraq and Afghaninstan too soon so they rip each other apart and then they can blame Bush. Then the next time America gets attacked it won't go to war at all.
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What the conservatives think is that Democrats want to leave Iraq and Afghaninstan too soon so they rip each other apart and then they can blame Bush. Then the next time America gets attacked it won't go to war at all.
Finally some tough questions on the Democratic ticket.
YouTube - Barney Frank: Plenty of rich people that we can tax
Ouch!
The next four years will be fun.
That may be what conservatives think dems want, but they'd be wrong.
Much like your thoughts that Iraq is for the most part won and that it's already been handed off, you're wrong.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information but I would ask for your money back if you're subscribing to someone.
they didn't like it the first time, but maybe they'll like it when you post it.
It's not nice to talk about McCain that way...I hope you guys are right because there are some real bad guys out there that look at the U.S. as particularly weak right now in the election cycle and look at Obama as weak.
If by "tough guy" you mean saber rattling and preemptive wars then you'll probably remain unsatisfied.If Obama is a tough guy and will stand up to enemies then I'll be pleasantly surprised. I don't think the western world can take a declining U.S. if all the other superpowers are dictatorships. Of course I can't overlook that when threats become closer or more eminent people tend to perk up and get tough.
I hope you guys are right because there are some real bad guys out there that look at the U.S. as particularly weak right now in the election cycle and look at Obama as weak. If Obama is a tough guy and will stand up to enemies then I'll be pleasantly surprised. I don't think the western world can take a declining U.S. if all the other superpowers are dictatorships. Of course I can't overlook that when threats become closer or more eminent people tend to perk up and get tough.
Do you honestly think Obama is just going to roll over if the US is threatened and/or attacked?
It's an actual concern. Al Qaeda looks at the U.S. as a country that doesn't finish what it starts. I'm talking about what the enemy thinks.
People on this board are expecting Iraq to fall apart into 3 countries.
There's this sense that if the enemy keeps piling on the will of the public weakens, especially with a downbeat media. When the U.S. leaves both wars, especially if it is right away, the enemy will be enboldened.
Actually there is a good deal of eveidence that a response by Gore. Al Qaeda had attacked and attacked over the entire Clinton administration with a week response. 9/11, in my opinion is a prime example of what happens when you ignore the problem for eight years. This statement does not mean the Bush Admin, was not somewhat responsible as well, but I see no evidence that there would have been as decisive action due to eight years of the Clinton/Gore cupation of the White House.
Actually there is a good deal of eveidence that a response by Gore. Al Qaeda had attacked and attacked over the entire Clinton administration with a week response. 9/11, in my opinion is a prime example of what happens when you ignore the problem for eight years. This statement does not mean the Bush Admin, was not somewhat responsible as well, but I see no evidence that there would have been as decisive action due to eight years of the Clinton/Gore cupation of the White House.
Interesting. I wasn't aware you were a spokesman for Al Qaeda.