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Old 10-13-2005, 04:58 PM   #31
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I am a dual-citizen with Ireland and happen to live in a diverse city.

Yourself?

i've lived abroad and traveled extensively in Europe and North Africa and live in a diverse, international city.

if i had a dollar for every round-table pub discussion where people shout at me for the actions of the Bush administration, actions that i find indefensible ... and through living abroad i feel connected to the repercussions of our actions in a very immediate way, and the repercussions, especially recently, are quite negative.

and being a dual-citizen doesn't mean that you've traveled much. i know dual-citizens who live in one country, and when they go to another, they stay with family and that's it.
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:01 PM   #33
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are the two mutually exclusively?

Howard Dean is from your state, isn't he? There is nothing Irvine has said in this thread that Dean hasn't said.
No Dean was actually from NYC I believe but yes he was the Gov of VT for a while... and good riddance too him.. talk about embarressing.
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What is that suppose to mean? And for your info the answer is yes. Am I suppose to be embarressed that I am an American!? Well, I am not...I love my country, thanks for asking.


i love America The Idea, i love the opportunity that the country has provided me, i am thankful every day that i was born in this country.

i am still embarassed by the actions of my president.

still, the Bushies would have you believe that part of being proud to be an American is to be proud of everything they do. the conflation of patriotism with acquiescence is quite frightening.
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i love America The Idea, i love the opportunity that the country has provided me, i am thankful every day that i was born in this country.

i am still embarassed by the actions of my president.

still, the Bushies would have you believe that part of being proud to be an American is to be proud of everything they do. the conflation of patriotism with acquiescence is quite frightening.
I never said I agree with Bush over everything, I just said I am not embarressed to be an American.

To each his own I can see where your comming from also.
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your logic is flawed on travel, my friend. you seem to think because you've spent time out of the country your opinion is absolute. not the case.

Isn't it funny how you ask a question, I answer it, and you simply run to shoot me down saying you know dual citizen's who just travel from A to B. now who is being negative.
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No Dean was actually from NYC I believe but yes he was the Gov of VT for a while... and good riddance too him.. talk about embarressing.


well, heath care for every child and civil unions for gay people can't be all that embarassing.

post governorship, you might have a point.
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well, heath care for every child and civil unions for gay people can't be all that embarassing.

post governorship, you might have a point.
that was my point the T-Rex scream didn't do alot for us.


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your logic is flawed on travel, my friend. you seem to think because you've spent time out of the country your opinion is absolute. not the case.

Isn't it funny how you ask a question, I answer it, and you simply run to shoot me down saying you know dual citizen's who just travel from A to B. now who is being negative.


are you trying to pick a fight?

first, i never said my opinion was absolute; i implied that my embarassment stemmed from the amount of time i had spent abroad.

secondly, you didn't answer my question. i asked if you spent a lot of time out of the country, you said

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just where, in those words, did you mention the time you've spent abroad?
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that was my point the T-Rex scream didn't do alot for us.


i felt your pain.

i really did.
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easy irvine, we are two civilized people having a conversation. I don't pick fights on the internet or in real life. I do travel extensively through Europe. I have not gone to Africa, however, as you have.

I don't think that matters, however. I know what the opinion in other parts of the world are. But have a mind of your own and make decisons, don't let others govern your opinion. I don't think you let that happen, but the flow of your speech is going that way.
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channel your rage into something good...go make a difference.
How do you know we haven't? Obviously, you do not know any of us. So where do you get off with that comment? Huh?
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Fuck! Double post. sorry.
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I was just making the comment that there seems to be a lot of negativity going on. I know you hate the president, I get it. I was just getting fed up with the same tune every single post.

I don't know what you do for a living, obviously, so I may have been a bit rash - it wasn't meant to be taken literally. I just hate constant bashing. Please, for my faith in Dems, please find a positive Bush story and have a brief convo on it. I will not be finding one for you because that is too easy. I want to know what you think is good. And I think it'll even make you feel good when you do.

In a sense, I hope you are not saying out of ALL the decisons he has ever made in office, he has never made a correct one.
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He gave an effective speech on 9/14(?) (questioning the date, not the speech.)

I don't think there was a whole lot of disagreement with him going into Afghanistan.
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