MERGED ----> is this the end + okay let me translate

[allthattheyare]

is this the end

over 20 years in thebusiness it seems that even irish tigers
get long in the tooth.
ihope thebest means something more than what this new album delivered.
in someways i am still waiting for the next great album.
i guess in a way this atomic bomb is perhaps a sign that things are shifting in different areas then the thing called u2.
for a lyricist like bono to resort to old grand metaphors to uplift rather than to ponder maybe i am missing the plot.
maybe the point is so adamantly obvious where bono says in the opening line to stuck in a moment he says that he is no longer afraid of anything and all he wants is simple melody.

maybe the elevation of u2 is not to worry anymore
but to enjoy what life has given you.
maybe that is the lasting legacy this band has left to give.
as a u2 fan for many years if this is thier swan song then i wish them the best .
they made me and my generation to believe in something more than art as artifice...that somewhere beneath pretention is relevance and hope

 

[Dalton]

Re: is this the end

over 20 years in thebusiness it seems that even irish tigers
get long in the tooth.
ihope thebest means something more than what this new album delivered.
in someways i am still waiting for the next great album.
i guess in a way this atomic bomb is perhaps a sign that things are shifting in different areas then the thing called u2.
for a lyricist like bono to resort to old grand metaphors to uplift rather than to ponder maybe i am missing the plot.
maybe the point is so adamantly obvious where bono says in the opening line to stuck in a moment he says that he is no longer afraid of anything and all he wants is simple melody.

maybe the elevation of u2 is not to worry anymore
but to enjoy what life has given you.
maybe that is the lasting legacy this band has left to give.
as a u2 fan for many years if this is thier swan song then i wish them the best .
they made me and my generation to believe in something more than art as artifice...that somewhere beneath pretention is relevance and hope

Will someone please interpret this for me? Thanks.

 

[ramblin rose]

Re: Re: is this the end

Will someone please interpret this for me? Thanks.

I'm going to try the google translator. I'll let you know.

 

[Dalton]

Re: Re: Re: is this the end

I'm going to try the google translator. I'll let you know.

My deepest thanks....

 

[kakvox]

Re: Re: Re: is this the end

I'm going to try the google translator. I'll let you know.

 

[brownda7]

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes...again


Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need...of some...stranger's hand
In a...desperate land


Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah


There's danger on the edge of town
Ride the King's highway, baby
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway west, baby


Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold


The west is the best
The west is the best
Get here, and we'll do the rest


The blue bus is callin' us
The blue bus is callin' us
Driver, where you taken' us


The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother...I want to...fuck you


C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
And meet me at the back of the blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
On a blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
C'mon, yeah


Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill


This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end


It hurts to set you free
But you'll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die


This is the end

 

[Dalton]

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes...again


Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need...of some...stranger's hand
In a...desperate land


Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah


There's danger on the edge of town
Ride the King's highway, baby
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway west, baby


Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold


The west is the best
The west is the best
Get here, and we'll do the rest


The blue bus is callin' us
The blue bus is callin' us
Driver, where you taken' us


The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother...I want to...fuck you


C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
And meet me at the back of the blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
On a blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
C'mon, yeah


Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill


This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end


It hurts to set you free
But you'll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die


This is the end

Wow! See I would have never gotten that. I thought this was a post on Bob Baker Ate Seasame Street. Many of you havent even heard that U2 song because it was only released as part of the apple box set.

OK start complaining.

 

[neutral]

Way to welcome a new member

 

[one4u2]

Re: Re: Re: is this the end

I'm going to try the google translator. I'll let you know.

 

[ramblin rose]

Way to welcome a new member

A new member? Sorry, I misinterpreted their first post.

 

[GibsonGirl]

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end

Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I'll never look into your eyes...again


Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need...of some...stranger's hand
In a...desperate land


Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain, yeah


There's danger on the edge of town
Ride the King's highway, baby
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway west, baby


Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold


The west is the best
The west is the best
Get here, and we'll do the rest


The blue bus is callin' us
The blue bus is callin' us
Driver, where you taken' us


The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to kill you
Mother...I want to...fuck you


C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
C'mon baby, take a chance with us
And meet me at the back of the blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
On a blue bus
Doin' a blue rock
C'mon, yeah


Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill


This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end


It hurts to set you free
But you'll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die


This is the end

 

[Dalton]

Way to welcome a new member

I know that this was meant to chastise, but I just reread (carefully) the original post of the thread and I still have no idea what it is saying.

So allthattheyare, please come back and elaborate for me.

 

[allthattheyare]

okay let me translate

in my message i was saying that as a u2 fan
the album HTDAAB was a disappointment creatively.
this is a band that prided itself with venturing into new territory.
never resting on their laurels(i need spell check)
stepping into the future.
any u2 fan like me for the last someodd twenty years knows
that anything deemed : righteous, rocking, linear, and cool....or anything that sounds like "u2 "by u2 standards is bad.
in HTDAAB it seems that the band is not so much concerned this time out with stepping into the future.
maybe ATYCLB and HTDAAB were the natural scaleback reactions to the lukewarm POP.
POP was a mistake larry mullen said " we'd never make again, so he says".

you gotta remember this group has outlasted all their contemporaries from the 80's from which they sprung.

they met in 1976 and were together for nearly 30 years .

during a tenure like that perspectives change or become modified.
but one constant remained: they remained together.

the beatles
the stones
the who
the ramones
all broke up in one way or another

u2 stayed

in the BLENDER issue that featured u2 on the cover bono in the article referred to his mates with fatherly affection.
he accepts them as they are ,warts and all.
thru EDGE's marital problems
BONO's father passing and saying he was an orphan now
ADAM being clean and sober for a decade now
and LARRY who looks pretty damn the same way he always did!

i think it was BONO who said that this may be one of their best albums and that he ranks it up there with achtung baby.
but , not to coin a weird pun ,but their new album doesn't reveal anything i haven't heard before.
to me it's a vintage u2 album
it's just not a great album.

dave evans doesn't worry that he went back in time to the ringing tones that a million young guitarists revered as the EDGE.
unapologetically emphatically and deliberate without any pretension about going to the next level of greatness.
does he really need to?

remember the movie eddie and the cruisers 2: eddie lives?
he tells his band who weren't jelling that playing intense was not "it"
...." i'm in the middle of nowhere, absolutely nowhere,just me the sand and silence. but if you know what to listen for it's not silent. i heard a music i never heard before, in the silence. if you learn to touch something that deep that's intense.(and to paraphrase that statement into something personal: to be intense is to find that part inside that's devoid of pretension, posing trying to be cool, being manufactured like all this bubblegum pop that'll just blow once britney spears poses for playboy. whatever.

BONO calls music: songwriting by accident.
if you start to write words or create melodies, you intefere with the music. " i believe the songs are already written"....,BONO.

the song 'ONE' was written that way.
as well as others.
but at what cost?
each u2 album was documented as a " nightmare" to make.
when they did achtung baby they did it under tremendous stress
as was POP ...no less a nightmare to record.

i think HTDAAB was a deliberate u2 album.
i think they just enjoyed themselves more with this album.
i don't think Bono worries so much , this time ,about how bad the world is
or maybe he was just too busy rubbing noses with shady politicians.
but if you were friends with people you've known for over a decade and you were in a band,... what's more important:

putting an album together that celebrates the fact that your lives together have given you so much or

stressing yourself out in the studio to put out the " great" album
that questions the loss of faith and what's wrong with the world
and inadvertantly ruining a friendship or bond in the process?

" i'm not afraid of anything in this world. there's nothing you can throw at me that i haven't already heard. i'm just trying to find a decent melody."........just a song...that any of "us" can sing.

 

[WinnieThePoo]

you're overreacting , relax , take a deep breath
yes u2 now are much more mature , and not so risky anymore , they made a new record , it's like a good wine , just keep it 2gether , they gonna tour soon

no negative posts

 

[indra]

no negative posts

So only sweetness and light allowed, eh? No one is allowed to be disappointed in this album? hmmm

 

[kakvox]

I agree on some levels, but I also think it's great you feel so passionate about U2 and have thought about this a lot.

As for Bono and U2 questioning the state of the world, as Bono has said in a lot of recent interviews, he didn't feel it enough to put it in the songs. What came out was his feelings on his relationships, especially his dad.

 

[WinnieThePoo]

about no negative

i'm saying this to meself , you know

 

[allthattheyare]

no negative posts?








w.t.f?!#@@!#@#@!@

 

[U2_Guy]

Artistically, U2 consciously killed himself.

Until Pop there was real art in the whole package.

From ATYCLB on they will keep making formulaic songs and over produced albums. From ATYCLB on U2 albums will be only an excuse to make more money and gain more fans. And, of course, to tour the world with "stripped down" shows (meaning boring stages and set designs) that will cost you loads of money. Ya know, you have to make mony mony make mony mony.

Don't expect conceptual tours/albums no more.

Expect more of the same very well crafted pop songs... But don't expect magic like you had till Pop.

 

[Dalton]

It makes me sad how many people in this forum that the only thing they create with creativity is newness. That is such a narrow view of art and life.

Study art history you will see the power and the beauty of mastering a form. On this album, U2 have become master song writters and that is no small feat.

Ask yourself this question, what could U2 have done that they have not already done? I love the direction they have went. They have taken the last 25 years and rolled them up into 11 incredible songs.

 

[Dalton]

Artistically, U2 consciously killed himself.

Until Pop there was real art in the whole package.

From ATYCLB on they will keep making formulaic songs and over produced albums. From ATYCLB on U2 albums will be only an excuse to make more money and gain more fans. And, of course, to tour the world with "stripped down" shows (meaning boring stages and set designs) that will cost you loads of money. Ya know, you have to make mony mony make mony mony.

Don't expect conceptual tours/albums no more.

Expect more of the same very well crafted pop songs... But don't expect magic like you had till Pop.

Case in pointe.

ART DOES NOT EQUAL NEWNESS

It never has, it never will.

 

[WinnieThePoo]

i agree , the album is good in a way that every song can be a very powerful single ,

 

[Sleep Over Jack]

With Abbey Road, The Beatles did very little new, and its hailed (rightfully) as a classic..for other examles of this, see Neil Young's After The Goldrush and Harvest albums.


Sometimes good music is just good regardless of anything else, and this is coming from someone who likes U2's '90s era the best..

 

[Dalton]

I have a good friend who is a professional musician. he is not a big U2 fan (casual intrest), but when he was over the other day he mentioned that he had listened to the album and he said that in his opinion there was no other band in the world who could have written that album. An album in which every song is almost perfectly crafted.

He is very impressed. Still not a big fan, but very impressed.

 

[WinnieThePoo]

something was not new ???,
come together ??????
medley ???,

 

[Sleep Over Jack]

What was new about Come Together? its a blues rock song...the medley concept; its sort of new, but the songs within it had all been done before by The Beatles...and the idea of tunes transitioning into each other was not new either.

 

[rjhbonovox]

So only sweetness and light allowed, eh? No one is allowed to be disappointed in this album? hmmm

Yep no disapointment allowed in this forum and they demand that you love the new album even though it is not that.............................................





















good.

 

[rjhbonovox]

Artistically, U2 consciously killed himself.

Until Pop there was real art in the whole package.

From ATYCLB on they will keep making formulaic songs and over produced albums. From ATYCLB on U2 albums will be only an excuse to make more money and gain more fans. And, of course, to tour the world with "stripped down" shows (meaning boring stages and set designs) that will cost you loads of money. Ya know, you have to make mony mony make mony mony.

Don't expect conceptual tours/albums no more.

Expect more of the same very well crafted pop songs... But don't expect magic like you had till Pop.

Excellently put.

 

[LostAtMoon]

Some people just no nothing about excellence.

U2 will always be U2 and I see nothing wrong about making honest money, which seems to always be hard in music business.
I didn’t ask (expect or need) for a different concept in music from the band I’ve been a fan all my life. As a matter of fact, they’ve managed to impress me with such mature and passionate songs.

As per “magic”, I would say that it’s like beauty – it’s in the eyes of those who see it. U2 always bring magic into my life.

They have been accused of been pretentious before (along with a lot of other stuff). Now that they’re not “experimenting” anymore (and I am glad that they are not), they’re being pointed as dead. Some people are never satisfied, some people don’t know what they want, a lot of people will never be happy. Just don’t blame it on U2. They’ve done a great job.

 

[MacPhisting]

Simple. If you dont like it, dont listen to it.