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Old 08-16-2007, 11:25 PM   #46
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Example of lyrics > flow...

Me And A Gun by Tori Amos?
But isn't it the cold flow of the song that gives it true power over a listener? The lyrics are chilling but the rhythm is what gets me.
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But isn't it the cold flow of the song that gives it true power over a listener? The lyrics are chilling but the rhythm is what gets me.
I don't know. It's more or less like a chilling poem to me.
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I don't know. It's more or less like a chilling poem to me.
Oh the lyrics are chilling but the way she sings it almost makes you wonder after each pause if she will be able to continue on. It is a beautifully brave feeling to have her come back after each moment of silence.

Me...and a gun...and a man...on my back

The flow of that is just devastating because you get the impression of helplessness without having to pay attention to the lyrics. One of Tori's best and most moving.
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the way she sings it almost makes you wonder after each pause if she will be able to continue on. It is a beautifully brave feeling to have her come back after each moment of silence.

Me...and a gun...and a man...on my back

The flow of that is just devastating because you get the impression of helplessness without having to pay attention to the lyrics. One of Tori's best and most moving.
I agree. Simply amazing!
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Wait, so is "flow" the rhyme and rhythm of the lyrics, like LemonMelon implied?

Because if it's that, and not just "everything not the lyrics" than this thread just might not be the dumbest thing I've read all week.
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Lyrics were always secondary to me even though I learned to appreciate great lyrics a lot more in the past few years. And even then I think that the singer's performance plays just as big a part as the actual words. I can't imagine Velvet Underground's "Heroin" working as well without Lou Reed's delivery which IMO is what ultimately makes the song so chilling.
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Lyrics were always secondary to me even though I learned to appreciate great lyrics a lot more in the past few years. And even then I think that the singer's performance plays just as big a part as the actual words. I can't imagine Velvet Underground's "Heroin" working as well without Lou Reed's delivery which IMO is what ultimately makes the song so chilling.
Yes! That's actually one of the few songs where I know the lyrics beginning o end, but the way he "says" them is amazing.
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For latins, is usually the music But some songs I like because of the lirycs so I´ll save my vote in this one
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What about 'Hustle'?
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Wait, so is "flow" the rhyme and rhythm of the lyrics, like LemonMelon implied?

Because if it's that, and not just "everything not the lyrics" than this thread just might not be the dumbest thing I've read all week.
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Yes, and the results would be much closer if this board were more of a hip-hop / rap scene. Rock and pop can more or less get away with awful lyrics (see the 80s for great examples), but in rap, because the words are generally right up front, they have to at least say something - but if they don't say it in a rhythmic way, in a way that flows well, no one's going to listen.
Very good point even though lyrics in rap are really more important than they are in rock, I still find myself interested first in the beat and the flow of the rapper, because I'm not gonna pick up on all the lyrics right away. Something's gotta hook me into the song.

I really think the delivery of lyrics is just as important as the words themselves...the way lyrics are sung and the music behind them can make them sound much bigger than if you're just reading the words. I'd say U2 is a pretty good example of this. Bono has compared the lyrics of Where the Streets Have No Name to 9th grade poetry, and just reading them I'd have to agree...but the way he sings them makes them infinitely more powerful than that. When he sings "I want to run," well, I want to run too!

Great example with Heroin, too. I can't imagine the song being sung (well, practically spoken) in any other way. Singing the song "normally" would completely ruin the totally chilling effect.

Also nobody else could make me want to testify like it's a Sunday afternoon activity except Zach de la Rocha... the way he says it how can I resist?

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