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Old 11-19-2002, 02:06 AM   #1
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so the NY Times wants Tiger Woods to boycott The Masters

New York Times suggests Tiger should skip Masters

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NEW YORK -- The New York Times suggested in an editorial Monday that Tiger Woods skip the Masters next year because of the all-male membership at Augusta National Golf Club.

"A tournament without Mr. Woods would send a powerful message that discrimination isn't good for the golfing business,'' the editorial said.

Augusta National declined comment.


In interviews this month, Augusta National chairman Hootie Johnson was adamant that a woman would not be among the 300 members at Augusta by the start of the Masters in April.

Johnson's comments were the first on the subject since he criticized Martha Burk and the National Council of Women's Organizations for trying to coerce change at the golf course.

The Times said that if Augusta National "can brazenly discriminate against women, that means others can choose not to support Mr. Johnson's golfing fraternity. That includes more enlightened members of the club, CBS Sports, which televises the Masters, and the players, especially Tiger Woods.''

The editorial said Sanford I. Weill, the chief executive of Citigroup, and Kenneth Chenault, chairman of American Express, should "lead the way'' for other prominent members and resign from the club.

Weill and Chenault have said Augusta National should admit female members. A spokeswoman for American Express refused comment, and a telephone message left for Weill at Citigroup was not returned.

Woods was headed to this week's Dunlop Phoenix tournament in Japan and not immediately available for comment.

Woods has said he would like to see a female member at Augusta National, but that the club had a right to set up its membership however it wanted.

"CBS will broadcast the Masters in April,'' CBS Sports VP LeslieAnne Wade said, declining further comment.

The network has had a series of one-year deals since 1956 to televise the Masters, the highest-rated golf tournament.

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so will the NY Times boycott The Masters themselves, and refrain from any coverage, or would that be detrimental to their advertizing that week?
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If Tiger skips it this year I bet an aussie wins it. And i bet the New York Times will boycott and send a reporter there to cover the golf tournament, i mean the boycott.
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Who the fuck cares what the NYT thinks. Tiger woods should tell them to go get stuffed!
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taxidermy?
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Old 11-20-2002, 01:17 AM   #5
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Absoullutly!!

I am experenced with it, I can help!!
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Seems the only people that really give 2, are this Martha Burk and the Times.
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Dont forget me i really care!!!

WHO THE FUCK CARES!!!

Exept me!
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edit:

The Times, Martha and ...........Bonoman!!


NOT!
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Washington Post - editorial

Forcing a Social Conscience Is Unconscionable

By Michael Wilbon
November 20, 2002

You listen to some folks, you'd think it's Tiger Woods's fault Augusta National has no female members. I read these diatribes criticizing Tiger Woods for not coming out in favor of women being admitted to Augusta, even though I can think of a half-dozen interviews in which he has said he favors women being members of Augusta. But for some folks, that's not good enough; Tiger Woods is apparently supposed to be the caretaker of women's golf in America.

I read an editorial in Monday's editions of the New York Times that suggested that Tiger should boycott The Masters, the most prestigious tournament in the world, in April so that he can send the message that discrimination isn't good for the sport.

Oh, is that right? I bet the editorial pages of the Times never suggested that Jack Nicklaus should have boycotted The Masters because Augusta National didn't have any black members. And if we want to make it a little more current, I didn't see the Times suggesting in that same editorial that Phil Mickelson or Davis Love or Ryder Cup captain Hal Sutton -- all American men with wives and daughters -- should boycott The Masters, or for that matter as much as open their mouths in protest.

Why Tiger and not, say, David Duval?

Because Tiger is black. No, the Times didn't say that, I am. But the writer couldn't have been more obvious. Sure, he's the best golfer in the world, and the most influential, but even if Sergio Garcia or Ernie Els was No. 1, a whole lot of folks -- like the editorial writer for the Times (who did write that Tiger should skip the Masters, Phil Mickelson?) -- would be crouching and waiting for Tiger. I checked the clips this morning, and I didn't find any such editorial by the Times suggesting CBS not televise The Masters.

Tiger, the Times suggests, needs to have a social conscience but other golfers -- read, white golfers -- do not. The men who run broadcast networks do not. I didn't realize that of 248 golfers who have made money on the PGA Tour this year, only one 26-year-old black golfer is supposed to have a social conscience, and everybody else on tour gets a pass. The Times ought to write another editorial explaining why that's so.

In our desperate search to find a clear and unwavering voice on social issues, particularly as they relate to sports, we've rushed to anoint Tiger Woods. Partly, this is his father's doing, saying that Tiger is one day going to be as important as Gandhi, which is insane and puts way too much pressure on the son.

Tiger is 26. How many 26-year-olds who grew up middle-class in Southern California and wanted for virtually nothing because his parents gave him everything could possibly have a fully developed social conscience and know how to express it on the world stage? No matter how hard some folks wish it to be, Tiger isn't Arthur Ashe and isn't ever going to be Ashe, or Muhammad Ali.

Tiger didn't grow up in the shadow of Jim Crow "whites only" signs in the South, or on the wrong side of the tracks. The set of circumstances that produced the Jim Browns, Tommie Smiths and John Carloses haven't come within 10,000 miles of Woods. He has no legitimate reason, not yet anyway, to wake up every morning in a rage over the injustices he has faced because he hasn't faced many, if any. He'll get there, I suspect, in time. But damn if he should be pushed there by the New York Times.

And how is it that Tiger, by boycotting The Masters, absolves white men who play golf from participating in the national discussion on the exclusion of women at Augusta National? Maybe the Times hasn't noticed, despite the reporting of its wonderful golf writer, Clifford Brown, how often the words "no comment" come from the mouths of golfers other than Tiger who won't go on the record with their feelings.

Generally speaking, I don't look to athletes for social commentary. But on this issue, given that it's been raging for five months, I would at the very least like to think there's a pulse. Though I disagree with golfer Len Mattiace's position that he is fine with Augusta not admitting women, I applaud him for not only voicing what he believes but for saying golfers ought to open their mouths and participate in such an emotional national discussion.

In putting all the pressure on Tiger to settle this dispute by withholding his excellence, the Times seems to miss the fact that South African Gary Player has been one of the great crusaders for racial equality in sports, and that Els, also South African, has been willing to enter the difficult and emotionally charged discussions.

My only real criticisms of Tiger throughout this debate have been that he had better not allow marketers to present him as a crusader while backing off in real life, and that his voice is far stronger than he knows.

Not only can he rock the boat, he can turn it over and shake it like a bathtub dingy. The CEOs of Citigroup and American Express (members of Augusta who have denounced exclusion) don't have 1/100th the volume Woods has if he decides to take on an issue.

If Woods wanted to boycott The Masters, I would applaud him. But for the gray old lady Times to suggest he should while making no such demands on anybody else is too arrogant and too transparent for me.

2002 The Washington Post Company
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Tiger quotes today

"As I've said before, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I think there should be women members, but it's not up to me. I don't have voting rights, I'm just an honorary member."
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If the NY Times is so concerned about the state of things at Augusta, they should not print next years special supplement for The Masters, and refuse the millions of dollars in advertising they receive from companies who put their ads in that supplement each year. That will show us they really care.

As for Tiger Woods, the Times shouldn't single him out, call for a boycott from all golfers...why does Tiger have to be pressured to be the sole spokesperson for the issue?
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If the NY Times is so concerned about the state of things at Augusta, they should not print next years special supplement for The Masters, and refuse the millions of dollars in advertising they receive from companies who put their ads in that supplement each year. That will show us they really care.
As much as one would like to think that an editorial speaks for the paper, it doesn't. The editorial was one person's opinion, and I highly doubt that the business side of NYT would go along with what they wrote.

Makes 'em look pretty stupid though when they do cover the crap out of the Masters after an editorial like that.

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