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Old 11-29-2005, 05:46 PM   #16
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True. He should be in the Top 5.
you beat me to that line
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:49 PM   #17
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ok, using their list
my order would be something like this:

1. Bob Dylan
2. John Lennon & Paul McCartney
3. U2
4. Bruce Springsteen
5. Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
6. Neil Young
7. Elton John & Bernie Taupin
8. Brian Wilson
9. Pete Townshend
10. Led Zeppelin
11. Kurt Cobain

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The order is completely wrong.

yeah, the order is on crack.

and elton john doesn't belong - should be jones/strummer instead - but other than that, i'm surprised the list came from AOL. other than the fact that it's a very safe list of bands/artists usually seen as being the "greatest".



edit: man, i was agreeing with you until i saw your springsteen comment. care to share why you don't think springsteen is a great songwriter? because unexplained, it makes you sound insane.



what exactly is the definition of songwriter, anyway?
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Elton John that high!?? I also think Townshend is too far up the list as well.
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And where the fuck is Ray Davies? he murders half the list!
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And while Bono writes most of U2's lyrics, the band comes up with the music together (or at least that's how they are always credited).
Someone can correct me if this is completely wrong, but I think that everything U2 do is officially recorded as credited to Hewson/Evans/Clayton/Mullen, for purposes of their equal four-way split of profits. Bono doesn't make any more than Adam just because Bono is the primary lyricist.

And I totally second what U2Man said about Neil Finn - not having him on this list is simply criminal.
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Someone can correct me if this is completely wrong, but I think that everything U2 do is officially recorded as credited to Hewson/Evans/Clayton/Mullen, for purposes of their equal four-way split of profits. Bono doesn't make any more than Adam just because Bono is the primary lyricist.



They've always shared songwriting credit.


And I have to assume that the reason the list is made up of "old farts" is that the artists have been around for a lot longer and their songs have continued to be an influence
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It's not a bad list, but where the hell are Elvis Costello and Strummer/Jones?

Does anyone besides me think it's pathetic that there aren't any women represented in the Top 10? Where are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith?

Oh, well. It's probably as good as you can expect for AOL.
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yea, and where is Morrissey??
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Number 1 is spot on for sure
thats the only spot I agree with
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the most ironic thing about aol's list is that the spot pretending to be bruce springsteen isn't actually springsteen, but some 60 year old fat guy jerkign off in his mother's basement.


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So by Led Zeppelin, I assume they really meant Page and Plant, since I doubt they made the list on the basis of In Through the Out Door.

I like how they made a top ten list, realized they hadn't sucked Kurt Cobain's dick yet, then added an eleventh place for him.
haha, so true.

nice to see dylan get first place though even if this is 7ust stupid fun anyway.
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Someone can correct me if this is completely wrong, but I think that everything U2 do is officially recorded as credited to Hewson/Evans/Clayton/Mullen, for purposes of their equal four-way split of profits. Bono doesn't make any more than Adam just because Bono is the primary lyricist.
They share the songwriting credit, but it is never listed as Hewson/Evans/Clayton/Mullen. Rather, it is always:

Music: U2
Lyrics: Bono

Sometimes the lyrics are credited to Bono and The Edge, and of course there are a few songs where Edge is the sole credit for the lyrics.
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True. He should be in the Top 5.
You got that right!
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I'm just wondering how long people are going to consider it trendy to name Kurt Cobain as a great songwriter. I'm not really saying he belongs in the top 10; I don't think he does. But going on 12 years after his death, one would think the trendiness might have worn off just a bit and it might be out of genuine admiration or respect.
I think that's true, but with these kind of things, they just seem to fall together so.....obviously?

Besides U2 and Cobain every artist on that list debuted more than 30 years ago. So you have more or less all the obvious picks including the obvious 80's and 90's token, but they are all great. So they could have done horrendously worse for sure.

I love Nirvana and Cobain, I think he was a great songwriter among many other great songwriters of the last 20 years, he just makes seemingly every list (ranked very highly) including the great guitarists lists (Kurt would even laugh at that) over many worthy names that get completely ignored.
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