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Old 07-24-2001, 01:09 PM   #1
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pete townshend

just want to say that i love this man, i wanna be the female pete townshend, is the one already ?
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Emma looks pretty close.
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you mean his daughter,
i cant find anything on her whats her music style? im dyin to hear her.
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I don't have the guts to buy the record. I keep thinking of Julian Lennon.
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IMO Pete is a living legend that does not get as much credit as he deserves. He's up there with Lennon, Clapton, Dylan...
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I love Pete; Pete brought me to God.
He's also whored himself by selling Bargain, a song about God, to the fucking Toyota Corporation.
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Bargain is about God? How so? I haven't read the lyrics in a while, maybe I should go back and do that...but if you could fill me in that would be great.

Also, someone told me Pete announced he was gay. Is that true? If it is or isn't the man is still a genius and I wouldn't like his work anyless.
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Pete once said he swung both ways occasionally.

Bargain:
"I'd gladly lose me to find you, I'd gladly give up all I had.
To find you, I'd suffer anything and be glad.
I'll pay any price just to get you. I work all my life and I will.
To win you, I'd stand naked, stoned, and stabbed.
I call that a bargain, the best I ever had.
The best I ever had.
I'd gladly lose me to find you, gladly give up all I got.
To catch you, I'm gonna run and never stop. I'd pay any price just to win you, surrender my good life for bad.
To find you, I'm gonna drown an unsung man. I call that a bargain, the best I ever had. The best I ever had.
I sit looking 'round; I look at my face in the mirror. I know I'm worth nothing without you. And like one and one don't make two, one and one make one. And I'm looking for that free ride to me; I'm lookin' for you.
I'd gladly lose me to find you, gladly give up all I got.
To catch you, I'm gonna run and never stop. I'll pay any price just to win you, surrender my good life for bad, to find you, I'm gonna drown an unsung man. I call that a bargain, the best I ever had. The best I ever had.

Now, mind you, this has been transcribed as I sit here listening to the record. It reads as a well-written, yet conventional love song. But when taken in context with Pete's beliefs at the time, it is a song about man's longing for God. Read it that way and it works very well. I can tell you more if you want. but you may not want any more.
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More please! Also, I could almost see it making sense from Jesus to a person as though it would be a bargain for him to redeem people. What do you think? However with songs like Seeker I can definitely see it going the other way too.
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It's not a Christian song, although that's a very cool angle I'd never considered.
Pete was (and may still be) following Meher Baba at the time, and the lyrical imagery of the song echoes the writings of Baba: Becoming lost in God, drowning in His love, putting God above yourself, and becoming One with Him.
Listen to the lyrics of Drowned from Quadrophenia, and you'll get a clearer image. If you can get a hold of the acoustic version of Drowned from the Secret Policeman's Ball, the lyrics and the song's beauty are more readily revealed. The Secret Policeman's Ball is hard to find, but worth the effort.
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Curious side question for you Martha. Do you know how the teachings of this Baba fellow are related to the teachings of the Maharishi Yogi, the guy the Beatles studied under until they became disillusioned by his hypocrisy (or at least Lennon did.)? Just a strange question from a guy into religion and matters of the Spirit.
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Pete is very cool, and the Who are very cool, I love em heaps and my fave Pete moment would have to be the film clip for 'wont get fooled again', the man is amazing............that is one of my fave film clips ever, it has all the makings of supreme cool and style, the song is great, Pete does the 'windmill' thing, Keith Moon is going ballistic on the drums, Daltery is singing great, Mr Entwhistle is looking cool and chic playing the bass and their is an audience of screaming Who fans- how cool......another great clip that I love that is remaniscent of this one is Neil Young's 'Cinnamon Girl'- man o man, the end riff in that song just goes on and on and you are reminded as to how awesome that man is

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Curious side question for you Martha. Do you know how the teachings of this Baba fellow are related to the teachings of the Maharishi Yogi, the guy the Beatles studied under until they became disillusioned by his hypocrisy (or at least Lennon did.)? Just a strange question from a guy into religion and matters of the Spirit.
They are not related. There is a fundamental difference between the two. I'm walking on eggshells here, due to past experience with Christians and this question. DO NOT take that in any offensive way; it's just that when this discussion starts, many Christians are uncomfortable with what they hear. Of course, I knew the job was dangerous when I took it (my original post about Bargain), but I'll only talk about it if you want to KNOW, not argue. OK?
I edited this because my original message blew off the question too easily.
I'll be back later this evening, and I'll check in.



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Can I ask questions or is that considered arguing? I'd like to hear more and I'm sorry if you had problems with Christians in the past, we seem to do that with a lot of people.
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Ask all you want. I like to talk about it. I don't proselytize well; it's not my thing. So no worries there. I meant absolutely no offense with the remark about Christians.
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