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Old 06-24-2004, 11:27 PM   #256
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The ref made a good call. Buddy in front of the net definitely had his arm in the goalie's face. It was no goal for sure.

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I caught the match after the Postiga (POSTIGA!!!???) goal and I think when Ashley Cole is the best player on your side something's wrong there.

That said it was a tremendous fightback, all credit to England. And yes, Terry did foul Ricardo for the 'goal' by Campbell.

What a goal from Rui Costa though. I've never really rated him after the Greece game but he's going to give Scolari one heck of a headache now in his selection policies for the semi-final!

Oh, and penalty shootouts scare the hell out of me. Even as a neutral I felt all nervous and stuff.
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Old 06-25-2004, 03:10 AM   #258
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i've watched almost all the matches till now ( live on tv)

but i am NOT watching euro 2004 anymore..

( may be just the finals..) because my fav teams England ( rooney ) & germany ( ballack ) are OUT
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but i am NOT watching euro 2004 anymore..

i will just follow the news like a casual soccer fan

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and whats happened to Beckham??? He's lost the excellent skill he once had...
i guess he's too busy being a model

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The ref made a good call. Buddy in front of the net definitely had his arm in the goalie's face. It was no goal for sure.
Exactly!! I got so sick of hearing the commentators moaning about the referee and how the goal shouldn't have been disallowed and England should have won and blah blah blah blah blah. I know I was watching English commentary, but is a little impartiality too much to expect?
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what about a word for Ashley Cole? Granted, I didn't see the whole match, but he scored a nice penalty and kept Ronaldo pretty quiet.
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England seemed to make the mistake many teams (Italy, The Netherlands) have made, which is to defend a lead. They should just have kept the pressure on and maybe tried to score a second goal then Portugal would have been out. But they kept on bringing defenders in and when the Portugese team scored they had to play the rest of the game including extra time with a defending team. They screwed it up themselves. Tough break with Rooney though (no pun intended).
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England seemed to make the mistake many teams (Italy, The Netherlands) have made, which is to defend a lead. They should just have kept the pressure on and maybe tried to score a second goal then Portugal would have been out. But they kept on bringing defenders in and when the Portugese team scored they had to play the rest of the game including extra time with a defending team. They screwed it up themselves. Tough break with Rooney though (no pun intended).
The BBC seems to think alike.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...nd/3838421.stm

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But when the dust settles and the hard luck stories are all told, England must accept they were knocked out of Euro 2004 by a better, and more positive, side.

England suffered a devastating blow when Everton's Wayne Rooney limped off before the half-hour, and if they had added to Michael Owen's early goal, surely the host nation's party would have ended early.

But after the break Portugal coach Luiz Felipe Scolari outwitted Eriksson for a second time, following on from Brazil's World Cup quarter-final win in 2002, with bold substitutions and an emphasis on attack that ultimately broke England.

Scolari's approach was met by caution with Eriksson who, seeing England were being pushed back further towards their own goal, sacrificed Paul Scholes for Phil Neville after only 55 minutes.

It signalled an England retreat that was eventually punished by, of all people, Spurs flop Helder Postiga.

Portugal were fluid, inventive and pacy, while England were trapped and reduced to firing long balls towards Owen and Darius Vassell.

England spent long spells of the second half without the ball, pressurised until it was inevitable they would be hit with a knockout blow.

Eriksson was cautious whereas Scolari was cavalier, and maybe this was a case of fortune favouring the brave.
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The ref made a good call. Buddy in front of the net definitely had his arm in the goalie's face. It was no goal for sure.

I am sad.
Can't agree there I'm afraid. The ball was loose in the area and Terry & Campbell had every right to jump for it - the Portugese goalie flapped at it like a big girl and was rescued by the ref. Football is not a non-contact sport and the sooner refs accept it the better! I'm sure Collina would have let that goal stand! The ref was a 'homer' - so much for Swiss neutrality!
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Can't agree there I'm afraid. The ball was loose in the area and Terry & Campbell had every right to jump for it - the Portugese goalie flapped at it like a big girl and was rescued by the ref. Football is not a non-contact sport and the sooner refs accept it the better! I'm sure Collina would have let that goal stand! The ref was a 'homer' - so much for Swiss neutrality!
*agrees with Peter... *
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Can't agree there I'm afraid. The ball was loose in the area and Terry & Campbell had every right to jump for it - the Portugese goalie flapped at it like a big girl and was rescued by the ref. Football is not a non-contact sport and the sooner refs accept it the better! I'm sure Collina would have let that goal stand! The ref was a 'homer' - so much for Swiss neutrality!
Terry did not seem to really jump for it, but more to hinder the goalie. Since it was in the 8-meter area that means the goalie is 'protected'. So the referee had every right to decide it was a foul. Collina might even have agreed.

To call a referee a 'homer' just for that one decision is laughable.

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Come on, there was one guy jumping for the ball and the other English guy was obviously there to block the goalie. All this happened in the small part of the penalty area (I don't know its name in English) where you're not allowed to attack the goalkeeper. Now if the English team hadn't been playing like 11 big girls after Owen's goal than they would have had more chances like that. It was bad tactics and that's why they lost.
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Hey Martijn, that was my post!
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Hey Martijn, that was my post!
This happens quite a lot, doesn't it?
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