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Old 07-14-2007, 02:54 AM   #376
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Another (slight spoilers) interview with Ron Moore from this month of July:
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http://www.ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2222
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2 months to go until the movie.
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:45 AM   #378
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2 months to go until the movie.
1 month now. I can't wait for the DVD which integrates all those 2-3 minute TV segments into the story.
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:19 AM   #379
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No BSG Season 4 until April, my babies.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/830/830492p1.html
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That blows. Waiting until January was bad enough.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:16 PM   #381
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That blows. Waiting until January was bad enough.
At least I'll have time to finish Season 3 on DVD and Razor, but goddamn.

Sci-Fi just doesn't want it to end, do they?
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:31 AM   #382
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That's the problem, though. Ron is ending it early BECAUSE they almost didn't give him a 4th season and wouldn't guarantee a 5th season. They could at least be honest about the fact they're splitting the last into 2 seasons and give them the minimum 13 episodes for each. That way, Ron and his writers would get to explore even more of the characters and things wouldn't feel as rushed as Season 3.

I wouldn't mind the delays and proposed splitting of seasons if they granted them more episodes, but this is just unfair to the fans and especially the actors (Eddie Olmos is devastated and offered to give up his salary if it helped, and I'm sure James Callis loves the show just as much) and writers. I"m gonna write to Bonnie Hammer, President of Sci Fi and to Mark Stern head of programming for Sci Fi over the Christmas break to see if they'll do what's right. They even advertize it like morons. What political non-sci fi fan is gonna watch a show that's explicitly advertized as sci fi action with babes? They're gonna think it's Voyager or some crap.

James Callis even said how he went for some audition in the off-season and the woman who greeted him said, "You're show was cancelled, right?"
Callis: "What? No."
Woman: "You're from Stargate, right?"
Callis: "No, Battlestar Galactica"
Woman: "Right, Stargate, Battlestar; same thing."
Callis: "No, it's not the same thing."

He goes on to say, embarassed at having to recount this, at how he "kind of got on his pedestal and started saying 'You know, you really should watch it. It's very important and it's good for America...' "

I love James Callis, especially for these words at around the 25 second mark, which I live by:
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You can't advertise a show as "the most politically influential show on television," otherwise you risk sounded like a bunch of douchebags. Catering to the casual sci-fi/action crowd will help get immediate viewers and get some to stick around for the long run.

In the end, it's an enjoyable television show, and I'd hate to see it end but how much more story is there to tell now after Starbuck says she's been to Earth? Not much.
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You can't advertise a show as "the most politically influential show on television," otherwise you risk sounded like a bunch of douchebags.
Agreed.
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Words to live by?

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I love James Callis, especially for these words at around the 25 second mark, which I live by:


All he's saying is to tell people to watch his tv show.
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Re: Words to live by?

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You can't advertise a show as "the most politically influential show on television," otherwise you risk sounded like a bunch of douchebags. Catering to the casual sci-fi/action crowd will help get immediate viewers and get some to stick around for the long run.

In the end, it's an enjoyable television show, and I'd hate to see it end but how much more story is there to tell now after Starbuck says she's been to Earth? Not much.
Well the show isn't really about finding Earth. It's about exploring the human condition and human nature and all the political dilemmas we currently face and perhaps have faced for centuries.

I disagree with you on the political element. I'm positive those who really understand what the show is saying about certain issues will be overjoyed or at least interested. Right now, we've got a bunch of sci fi fans who want it to "have more action" or to avoid drama and just want it to be like all the other predictable sci fi. Advertizing this show for what the projected audience was expected to be and making it looked dumbed down has hurt the show because sci fi fans are frustrated. They don't appreicate political insight or subtle drama; they enjoy Heroes more.

Those who care about the issues Ron Moore cares about will better understand and appreciate the show. The only problem is those people don't know about the show yet. And those it's advertized to don't appreciate its uniqueness.

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All he's saying is to tell people to watch his tv show.
Well, he's speaking with passion and saying to "proseletyze people" and I know from other interviews that he feels at least as passionately as I do about its political implications for improving the culture, if not much more. Same with Edward James Olmos, who says it's his best work ever.
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its political implications for improving the culture, if not much more.
Oh come on. Are you seriously suggesting that Battlestar Galactica has the power to improve our culture and possibly more, if only we get more people to watch it?

Judging from your absolute obsessiveness over this and 4400, I think you put waaay too much stock into entertainment that happens to have intelligent social commentary. Look, BSG is a fantastic tv show, possibly the best right now and by far one of my favorite series ever. It does raise a lot of questions and provides interesting and intelligent commentary on the human condition, but a movement for cultural change it is not. That's almost delusional.
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I love the show, and think it's pretty landmark, but I have to agree with Diemen completely.

Mentioning it to Daniel Lanois in a Q&A about his documentary was equally an exercise in futility and exaggerated optimism.
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But it's all artists can do, and you have to recognize that this is what motivates all great artists, including U2 wanting to write the political songs they wrote in the '80s and '90s. It's one more thing to help change
the world.

I used to get so excited about politicians changing the world, but I've felt so let down -- most recently by Obama and Clinton -- because they are so tempted to do anything to win. We have to get to the root causes and impoact the underlying culture.
TV and movies have a huge influence in our lives, and have an educational fuction, whether good or bad. Bush's entire conception of machismo comes from TV, movies and stereotypes about what a man or leader should be that have been spread through media. There's nothing Texan about his heritage, but he tries to live out this odd insecure ideal.

Fictional notions of good versus evil are what has led to a far more brutal US policy than would otherwise occur. These shows fight against that supposition and provide a new form of understanding that's very much missing from the mainstream and most TV and movies. The belong among such great films as "Babel" in showing how cruelty happens in the world.

Most Americans have never met a Palestinian or an Iranian, but the highly negative perception is related to the news but also to highly stereotypical, downright racist caricatures about the irrationality of the Muslim in the Middle East -- in a similar way white settlers probably viewed native Americans as barbarians. These things work at a subconscious level, so that when a tragedy like 9/11 happens, people rush to follow racist assertions and connections instead of understanding "the other". These shows are among the very few that can help reverse the decades of damage from natioanalist TV. It may be a small part of the puzzle, but it's something, and it's something unquestionably positive, and I believe in these writers for doing this, and I support them in their quest because it's really all I can do as a non-American and citizen of the world. The world is better off with shows like these, especially if they break out into the wider culture and affect how people think about the world.

What I said to Mr. Lanois was not futile. It was a fan of art communicating to an artist how much that art had affected him. I'm quite sure he understood very well how important that motivation was. And I think U2 would fall in love with these shows and it might help them write better, more complexely true lyrics. In this way, the message of one medium would affect another. U2 often have literary and film inspirations for their songs. What I did was completely rational and I'm proud I did it.
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U2 often have literary and film inspirations for their songs. What I did was completely rational and I'm proud I did it.
So you're putting this TV show up there with the Bible, Brukowski, Ginsberg, Wenders, Lewis, and the other great writers and movies Bono's listed as inspiration over the years?

You're talking about a band that has traveled the world, has seen a lot more than you and I, have talked to some of the greater minds of our town, have hung out with legends, have talked to world leaders... and you still think this sci-fi TV show is going to shape their world?

I'm sorry but it's laughable. You're projecting your small understanding of the world onto their lives.
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