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Old 05-12-2007, 01:15 AM   #361
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You need to start with the mini-series as Beav alluded to. It's on it's own DVD set. Season One then goes from there.

I remember when I first saw the mini-series. I wasn't entirely sold on the show. But once the first season began, I was hooked. It gets better as you go.
Actually, it depends where you buy stuff. In the UK, the miniseries is sold separately, and Season 1 has 4 discs. The chain store "Best Buy" was the only one in the US initially to sell only the UK sets.

However, in North America, Season 1 includes the miniseries, so it has 5 discs, and it's quite a bargain. I even visited a "Best Buy" last month and they were only selling the North American set.

Personally, I loved the miniseries, but it can feel long because.....well, it IS long, but there's so much texture that make things feel very real, too. Season 1 is amazing, though.
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Boxie in in the mini-series, but not the show, deep. You might want to keep that in mind.
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Boxie in in the mini-series, but not the show, deep. You might want to keep that in mind.
ok

what I did

I signed up at my local rental store

hollywood video

I have watched all of season one

4 disc

16 episodes

here is an episode list I found

but damn they end with

episode 16 Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 1

not

episode 17 Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2

and season 2

begins with

episode 18 Scattered



it seems 17 is important

boomer shoots somebody?
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after reading Muldfeld

it looks like I missed the 5th disc

with one episode on it

Disc #5 -- Battlestar Galactica: Season One
1. Raptor Down [5:11]
2. Homecoming [7:38]
3. The Chosen One [18:32]
4. A New Generation [12:37]

looks like that add up to one episode.
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ok

after reading Muldfeld

it looks like I missed the 5th disc

with one episode on it

Disc #5 -- Battlestar Galactica: Season One
1. Raptor Down [5:11]
2. Homecoming [7:38]
3. The Chosen One [18:32]
4. A New Generation [12:37]

looks like that add up to one episode.
Absolutely. Those must be the subchapter names on the DVD. You'd better watch that episode. I personally found the first half of Season 2, called 2.0 in North America kinda slow and lacking in political commentary. However, the last episode "Pegasus" is redone on 2.5 in extended form, and it's the beginning of some great stuff!

Watch the extended version of "Pegasus" on 2.5 not the 42 minute one.

I'm guessing you're enjoying it to have gone through so much so quickly!
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Fans of Romo Lamkin should know he's recorded extra podcast commentaries for the episodes in which he starred.

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/down...cast/season03/
Usually they place these podcasts as audio commentaries on the DVD sets, but I don't know if they'll be able to do that with Romo Lamkin's ones since they paused the episode to talk more, and I don't know how they'll synch the video with the audio podcast on the DVD.

Anyway, it's still great to have, and did anyone notice he was in a Season 1 episode of The X-Files as a guy who can start fires? I had a suspicion it might be him, but I wasn't sure at the time.
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A marathon of Season 3 started on Sci-fi today and will run until Friday every day 8 am-3 pm.

I'll be caught up soon.
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Absolutely. Those must be the subchapter names on the DVD. You'd better watch that episode. I personally found the first half of Season 2, called 2.0 in North America kinda slow and lacking in political commentary. However, the last episode "Pegasus" is redone on 2.5 in extended form, and it's the beginning of some great stuff!
I liked the first half of Season 2, when Colonel Tigh was trying to run things. It really opened up just how flawed a character he really is.

Pegasus is definitely one of the highlights of the entire series so far.
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Cult TV show Battlestar Galactica will end early next year, the program's makers have confirmed. The final fourth season of the sci-fi show will be broadcast on U.S. cable network Sci Fi Channel from November. Executive producers Ronald Moore and David Eick released a statement, saying, "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and, finally, an end. Over the course of the last year, the story and the characters have been moving strongly toward that end, and we've decided to listen to those internal voices and conclude the show on our own terms. And while we know our fans will be saddened to know the end is coming, they should brace themselves for a wild ride getting there - we're going out with a bang."



That makes me both sad and excited. I like well thought out endings, I think it makes the quality better over the long run.
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Damn. Only one more season?

I'm excited about the possibilities, but like you Beav, sad to see a quality show leave so soon.
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Yeah, but you know what? I've noticed that with shoes that go out on top, I'm more likely to watch it over and over. Arrested Development and The BBC Office had 2-3 season each, and I watch them way more than anything else. BSG will probably turn into one of those. The X-Files - I loved it, but it just went too long, and now I have zero desire to watch it.
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Watch the extended version of "Pegasus" on 2.5 not the 42 minute one.

I'm guessing you're enjoying it to have gone through so much so quickly!
Yes

I did enjoy it thourorly

there was a lot to absorb in 2-3 and sometimes 4 episodes a night

I think I would have enjoyed the ride
a bit more on a weekly bases
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A marathon of Season 3 started on Sci-fi today and will run until Friday every day 8 am-3 pm.

I'll be caught up soon.
I caught all those on my dvr

and have watched them all

It really is a great series

the writers do a good job
intertwining current topics into the scripts

torture, suicide bombers, abortion and religion in elections, and they do a good job of blurring the lines.



season 3 spoiler below:

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small complaint

in the last episode

I felt they gave up too much

with the reveal of the 4 cylons

and the 5th one was pretty obvious


and it is too bad
that we know you who is no longer in consideration
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Cult TV show Battlestar Galactica will end early next year, the program's makers have confirmed. The final fourth season of the sci-fi show will be broadcast on U.S. cable network Sci Fi Channel from November. Executive producers Ronald Moore and David Eick released a statement, saying, "This show was always meant to have a beginning, a middle and, finally, an end. Over the course of the last year, the story and the characters have been moving strongly toward that end, and we've decided to listen to those internal voices and conclude the show on our own terms. And while we know our fans will be saddened to know the end is coming, they should brace themselves for a wild ride getting there - we're going out with a bang."



That makes me both sad and excited. I like well thought out endings, I think it makes the quality better over the long run.
I thought I could shield you from the terrible news, my friends, but I can't protect you from this cruel world. You now know the truth about BSG. Next, you'll want to know where babies come from...... Terrible joke, but, anyway, there were rumors floating around a month ago when Edward James Olmos and Katie Sakhoff stated it would be the last season; I didn't say anything and hoped they got it wrong, and that the writers might persuade the network to change it's mind.

Here's as much of the transcript as I've been able to find:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....ar_gala_1.html

Also, the 4th season won't begin until early next year. The press keeps confusing the 2-hour TV special airing in November which will tie into Season 4, but is really a story set in the past. It will be available for sale the following week.

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Yeah, but you know what? I've noticed that with shoes that go out on top, I'm more likely to watch it over and over. Arrested Development and The BBC Office had 2-3 season each, and I watch them way more than anything else. BSG will probably turn into one of those. The X-Files - I loved it, but it just went too long, and now I have zero desire to watch it.
My only problem with that argument which a lot of fans have been putting forth is that the show has not shown itself to be running out of themes or other creative ideas. I think it's too soon. The mistakes made this past year are to do with pacing, rushing things because they have so much to pack into an episode. It's a huge problem that wasn't really there in Season 1. I've really liked some of the standalones, but hated "The Passage" and some of "Hero" and "The Woman King", but that probably had something to do with the network pressuring them to have stand alones to bring in new audience members.

What really killed the X-Files was not being able to find new themes: Scully's theme of following Mulder in the face of career suicide was interesting in Season 2's ''Colony"/"Endgame", acceptably repeated in Season 4's "Tunguska"/"Terma", but annoyingly exploited in the film and in conjunction with using Diana Fowley in Season 6. Mulder's faith was tested over and over. Skinner was depicted as a potential enemy, but it was unbelievable by Season 7, and then they just beat that dead horse in the Season 9 premiere with Doggett not trusting him. The interesting scepticism of Scully and faith on Mulder's part were getting tired in Season 7, and, while things did rejuvenate a bit with Doggett and Scully becoming full-fledged believer, the dynamic of Mulder and Scully was just displaced onto Doggett and the annoying Reyes. Even the theme of Scully seeking religious faith in time of need, was used again with Doggett praying for Reyes in Season 9. The writers just couldn't come up with new themes, despite trying really hard. The only theme that was continually well-handled was about loss. And yet, even if the show started to decline in Seson 6 and 7 and on, these seasons still had some great mythology episodes. It could be that if they were forced to end things, they would have just pushed up solving the conspiracy and Samantha's disappearance, but I still think the mythology was really strong through Season 5, and things just wouldn't have been the same if the show had to end in, say, Season 4.

BSG is so full of innovative themes and dynamics partly because they have so many characters. Season 3 was all about the politics of collaboration in an occupied regime, and really allows us to understand the complexities faced in Vichy France, or Israeli-occupied Palestine and Lebanon, or British-occupied Ireland. It hasn't shown any signs of running out of ideas. It's just too soon, especially to give all the characters their due. There's so much we don't know about Caprica 6, Gaeta, the black cylon Simon, and so little of Tom Zarek was used in Season 3.

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I caught all those on my dvr

and have watched them all

It really is a great series

the writers do a good job
intertwining current topics into the scripts

torture, suicide bombers, abortion and religion in elections, and they do a good job of blurring the lines.

small complaint: in the last episode I felt they gave up too much with the reveal of the 4 cylons and the 5th one was pretty obvious, and it is too bad
that we know you who is no longer in consideration
I'm so glad you're enjoying the show! Regarding the final cylon, I was pretty sure it was Starbuck, too, but don't be so sure. Ron Moore hasn't conceded that, while admitting that she did die. It'll be an interesting wait, huh?
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Here are some interviews about the end and such, including some video:

The (kinda) full telephone press conference announcing the end:
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....ar_gala_1.html
A very recent article summarising in 3 pages the public press conference, at which attended Eick, Moore, and the actors playing Bill Adama, Roslin, Lee Adama, Starbuck, and D'Anna Byers.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/795/795076p1.html

Video interview of Ron Moore just before the event:
http://www.collider.com/entertainmen...id/4581/tcid/1
Video interview with Roslin and also Apollo, who's very funny, even if he's a moron for wanting the show to end; he's lucky he got so much more to play than many actors this last season; we still know nothing about Caprica 6!
http://www.collider.com/entertainmen...id/4594/tcid/1
Another show I'd recommend and have in Zoo Station is The 4400 for the same reasons, except it's not quite there yet, but it's really improving.
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