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Old 06-25-2006, 10:26 PM   #16
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I just wanted to share the news that apparently MySpace is hosting a listening party for the new Muse album this week

http://www.myspace.com/muse
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I've ordered the Thom Yorke and Muse albums through Amazon.com. They've got a pretty good deal on for those two packaged together.
Really? I'm all over this
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Really? I'm all over this

Uh...a deal? They're asking $26.97 for both CDs, which is exactly the same as The Eraser's list price ($13.99) plus BHAR's ($12.98).

It makes the buying process more efficient though.
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So...am I the only one planning to buy Peaches's album? I don't have anything by her, but I think it's high time I did.



[And I had this big rant typed up about downloading leaks, but I've deleted it. Mofo and GG have said pretty much everything I was thinking, so I'll just save my ranting energies for another day.]
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I suppose my annoyance comes by the type of people who casually download and justify saying they will buy it when it comes out, though they then end up either not liking it enough to warrant a purchase (though still keep it downloaded) or just never get around to buying it. As for the "too poor to buy music" excuse, it's pretty offensive to me. The same person would never say, "I'm too poor to buy a new car so I'm just going to steal it", but they use the excuse with music because they CAN steal it so easily that they feel like they've done nothing wrong. What's wrong with a cd here and there they may say? What's wrong is that they end up owning hundreds or thousands of dollars worth of music that they never paid for, completely screwing over the artists, labels, and industry they supposedly love.
No kidding! This is the artists' livelihoods, you don't steal that. I often ask people how they would feel if they worked for a week and when payday came they got nothing because the boss had something else he wanted to spend that money on. Of course most just say "oh but that's different. Musicians make their money touring, not from album sales." So that justifies your stealing it? I have never figured out that logic.

And the "I'm too poor" bit irritates me no end too. I don't really care if someone can't afford to buy cds because he/she has to pay rent or buy the kids shoes or whatever. Has it ever occurred to people who use that as an excuse that musicians also have to pay rent and buy their kids shoes?

As for the people who say "I'd just be happy if someone wanted to listen to my music," well, go make some and give it away. But you have no right to steal someone else's work.

A band I like recently released a long delayed album. During that delay it managed to get leaked (and the band was very angry and upset because the first leaks could only have come from someone they trusted) and many many people (relatively speaking as they don't sell huge quantities anyway) got the entire album early. Even though the album has received good critical and fan reviews and the band has gotten lots more publicity in the past eight or so months than they have in years, the sales of this new album are significantly lower than their previous one. So I can't help but wonder if the people who got that album illicitly aren't bothering to buy it.
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I wonder if indra is talking about The Church

All my friends and I are consuming much more music than we could possibly afford to buy. So, we buy a percentage of the music that we listen to (the music that we like the best). I think most people do it that way.
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All my friends and I are consuming much more music than we could possibly afford to buy. So, we buy a percentage of the music that we listen to (the music that we like the best). I think most people do it that way.

On your first point...could be. Does it matter?

On your second, why do you feel you have a right to music you can't afford? Do you steal other things you want but can't afford?

(or did you mean you listen to lots of music on the radio or similar and only buy that which you like the most?)
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In principle, you're right. You don't have the right to 'steal' music that you cannot afford.

But if you cannot afford to buy the music anyway, who's losing money? Who are you 'stealing' from? No one. What might happen is that you get to listen to a band or an artist that you would NEVER have even considered listening to, if it entailed having to pay for it. And you might grow so fond of the band that you buy all their CDs later on, when you are able to afford them.

If the only way to discover new music was listening to radio, only the usual superfluous, totally uninteresting pop music would survive, because way too few people go out and buy music from bands and artists that they don't really know yet. You know what I am talking about. I think the possibility of downloading music has hurt the big artists much more than the indie ones. Many of them have probably benefitted from it.
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The new Sufjan album is awesome. I don't think anyone who's waiting for it to be released will be let down. It's great stuff.

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Uh...a deal? They're asking $26.97 for both CDs, which is exactly the same as The Eraser's list price ($13.99) plus BHAR's ($12.98).

It makes the buying process more efficient though.
It's cheaper than what they're asking at the Canadian site, even with shipping costs included. Made the conversion, and to ship to Canada it's $39.12. The price I'd have to pay in Canada is $50.51, using standard delivery methods.
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It's cheaper than what they're asking at the Canadian site, even with shipping costs included. Made the conversion, and to ship to Canada it's $39.12. The price I'd have to pay in Canada is $50.51, using standard delivery methods.
Oh, oops. Well, at least someone's getting a deal on the two albums.

As far as the "leakage" debate and stealing music, iTunes' 30 second song preview is nice, but still too short. The first half of the song, perhaps.
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I just wanted to share the news that apparently MySpace is hosting a listening party for the new Muse album this week

http://www.myspace.com/muse

This is kicking my ass. I've been listening all day!

Can't wait to own this album on the 11th!!!!
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My schedule for this Tuesday:

Morning - National service checkup
Noon - Buy Thom album
Afternoon - Go for class

Except the national service thing.
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Practice kickball???

Actually, some of my friends have joined kickball leagues here and they quite enjoy it.

And my Tuesday schedule looks like this:
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