zoney!
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HeartlandGirl said:Practice kickball???
Actually, some of my friends have joined kickball leagues here and they quite enjoy it.
It's a BLAST! My roomie needs a little work on kicking balls! Damn ice skaters!
HeartlandGirl said:Practice kickball???
Actually, some of my friends have joined kickball leagues here and they quite enjoy it.
GibsonGirl said:Wow, calm down, namkcuR.
u2popmofo said:New releases to choose from by:
Thom Yorke
Muse
Sufjan Stevens
Also:
Ferry Corsten
Peaches
etc.
I will most certainly be doing some purchasing!
namkcuR said:
I am calm...using capital letters doesn't meaning I'm yelling or anything...it just means I wanted to highlight certain points, that's all
namkcuR said:I completely disagree with those ripping downloaders' a new one. I personally don't 'steal' very much music. I download a WHOLE lot, but I buy 95% of what I download later on. But that doesn't change my opinions about downloading.
First of all, don't EVEN compare a poor college student to a FUCKING POP/ROCK STAR when it comes to not being able to pay rent or put food on the table or buy shoes for their kids. I'm fairly certain that Thom Yorke and Bono and the guys in the Muse and whoever can pay for all that stuff with their lunch money. They are RICH, for God's sake, and they will be rich whether people are downloading their music or not, because they DO make the bulk of their money from touring and from the record label directly, as opposed to record sales. Don't EVEN compare that to a college student who is living off student loans and a steady diet of pizza and beer and living in a dorm room.
Second, I have no sympathy whatsoever for the RIAA. During the whole Kazaa fiasco, they were actually punishing, and SCARING, little 11/12/13 year old kids who were downloading music but probably weren't aware that they were doing anything wrong. Just kids that were innocently trying to 'be cool'. Yes, being 'cool' is bullshit, but a twelve year old kid doesn' t know that. So the RIAA was scaring the crap out of innocent kids who were just having fun, and also suing their parents for ridiculous, absurd amounts of money. During the whole thing with Kazaa, I read things that said the RIAA was suing people for in excess of $100,000, maybe even $150,000, per song downloaded, and if the downloader was a minor, then the parent got sued.
THAT IS ABSOLUTE CRAP! IT IS UTTERLY ABSURD!
It doesn't end there. The RIAA was/is also taking it upon itself to shut down internet sites the host LIVE BOOTLEGS! The RIAA has juristiction over STUDIO RECORDINGS and OFFICIAL LIVE RECORDINGS, but WHERE does it get off trying to control LIVE BOOTLEGS?!
The RIAA is greedy.
Maybe it would be easier for 'poor college students' to afford CDs if they didn't cost $15+ in some cases. There is no justification for a CD costing more than $7-$9, MAYBE $15 IF it's a double album.
See, the thing is, CDs are expensive. Sometimes, people don't want to spend their money on a CD unless they're completely sure of what they're buying. And contrary to what someone said, sampling 30 seconds of one or two tracks online is NOT enough to make one completely sure of what they're buying. I, for one, don't like spending my money on a CD only to find out the one or two songs I sampled and liked are the ONLY ones I like on the CD. I, like many others, need to know what I'm buying when I buy it.
And yes, radio is crap. You can no longer discover music on the radio. Especially if you're, say, 21 right now and you want to discover music that was recorded in the 60s or 70s or 80s. That stuff never gets played on the radio. You HAVE to download music off the net if you want to discover it nowadays.
I could go on and on.
I'll end this by answering a question that was asked earlier in this thread: It's not about feeling like I have or don't have a right to steal music. It's about who I'd be stealing from. I really believe that if/when I download an album, if I'm taking money from anyone, it's mostly from the RIAA, and not from the artist. If I really respect an artist, I wouldn't want to steal their work, but if it's the RIAA, I really don't give a damn about stealing from a greedy corperation that scares adolescent kids and tries to have jurisdiction where from all indications it should have none.
That's my two cents.
namkcuR said:First of all, don't EVEN compare a poor college student to a FUCKING POP/ROCK STAR when it comes to not being able to pay rent or put food on the table or buy shoes for their kids. I'm fairly certain that Thom Yorke and Bono and the guys in the Muse and whoever can pay for all that stuff with their lunch money. They are RICH, for God's sake, and they will be rich whether people are downloading their music or not, because they DO make the bulk of their money from touring and from the record label directly, as opposed to record sales. Don't EVEN compare that to a college student who is living off student loans and a steady diet of pizza and beer and living in a dorm room.
U2Man said:But aren't 2 million albums quite a bit? How can he be so poor then?
GibsonGirl said:
PULSE. I'll be passing on that. It's nothing more than a good light show, in my view. They absolutely murdered some of those songs.
The OOTS said:
I expected that from a Waters fan.
U2Man said:...and about the price of CDs - don't you guys wonder why almost all new CDs, at least, have exactly the same (ridiculously high) price when they are released?
HeartlandGirl said:
In my experience, the cheapest price you're going to get for a CD is when it's released. At the record store I go to, all the new releases are discounted a couple dollars. If you wait a month later, that's when the price goes back up to something I usually won't pay. That's why I always try to go get stuff I want right when it's released, because it usually costs me a couple bucks less.
joyfulgirl said:I am buying The Eraser tomorrow. In fact, I'm buying multiple copies as birthday gifts so I don't want to hear any flack for the one teaser song I allowed to be sent to me prior to its release.
HeartlandGirl said:
My birthday's in November...
Just kidding! I'm buying The Eraser tomorrow too. I have yet to hear a note of it, but in Thom I trust.
u2popmofo said:I'll pay a buck or two more at my local store just to support them...
u2popmofo said:$8.99 - $11.99 USD is too expensive? That's the price I generally pay for CDs the week they're released. I'll pay a buck or two more at my local store just to support them, but overall that's a pretty standard "release price".
Regardless, if it's too expensive do you really need it? That's what I never understand, why do people steal it if they won't pay for it? If you cant justify spending money for it, you don't need it. Seems pretty simple to me, especially for an entertainment item. I guess some of us grew up in the age where we couldn't get music for free and still managed to acquire large collections as high school/college students. The whole "I'm too poor/music costs too much" thing is absolute BS to me, as I managed to survive both of these periods of my life without commiting crimes to attain music I wanted.
GibsonGirl said:
My dislike for PULSE has nothing to do with Roger Waters. It's more to do with the fact that The Division Bell isn't my cup of tea and that I think Pink Floyd completely took the life out of some of their earlier songs. That version of Run Like Hell makes my skin crawl, and not in a good way.
The lighting and production is amazing, though.
LemonMacPhisto said:
it's a travesty that PULSE is out on DVD over a Wall show. Unless I'm wrong, then I'll jump for joy in my chair.
u2popmofo said:$8.99 - $11.99 USD is too expensive? That's the price I generally pay for CDs the week they're released. I'll pay a buck or two more at my local store just to support them, but overall that's a pretty standard "release price".
U2Man said:
Americans are so lucky
Where I live, a new CD costs around $26.