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Old 06-24-2006, 10:11 AM   #406
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I agree with you. No excuses for that behavior.

However, please recognize that English fans are not necessarily the 'nicest' when they go to see football matches outside of England.
A lot of English fans are an embarrassment to our country U2@NYC, & you'll never ever see me sticking up for those plonkers.
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:20 AM   #407
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If only it were 2 incidents, & to insinuate I'm a racist stinks, Jesus, I grew up in a family of 7 kids Fathered by a scotsman, all of us born in England to an English woman, & throughout the years I've listened as my old mans banged on about how great scotland & the scots are, as do all jocks living in England, & also continue to tell us how much The English are this,that & the other, if we as a people are so bad, & the country is so bad why are there so many of them here, oh but then again I've forgotten the golden rule of racism, its most definitely a one way street, & woe betide any Englishman who stands up for his country, I'll be expecting & knock on the door from the PC brigade any minute now.
Well if you're not a racist, then stop calling people insulting names. It's not difficult. Right now I'm having trouble perceiving you as anything other than a flag-waving member of the National Front or some kind of Imperial revivalist bringing good old fashioned British civilization to the heathen worlds.
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Old 06-24-2006, 10:36 AM   #408
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If thats your perception of me I really couldn't care less, & I'll never apologise for being proud to be English, & standing my corner against anybody who wishes to have a sly dig, & one more thing, one of my sisters is married to an Asian guy, a really smashing bloke, they have 4 children whom I love dearly, I don't care about race, creed, or colour, but as I previously stated, to people like you racism is A ONE WAY STREET.
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If only it were 2 incidents, & to insinuate I'm a racist stinks, Jesus, I grew up in a family of 7 kids Fathered by a scotsman, all of us born in England to an English woman, & throughout the years I've listened as my old mans banged on about how great scotland & the scots are, as do all jocks living in England, & also continue to tell us how much The English are this,that & the other, if we as a people are so bad, & the country is so bad why are there so many of them here, oh but then again I've forgotten the golden rule of racism, its most definitely a one way street, & woe betide any Englishman who stands up for his country, I'll be expecting & knock on the door from the PC brigade any minute now.
It's no different than Americans listening to euros with superiority complexes about their nations, history, culture etc and yet a trip to Europe will reveal nations hungry for american products and American jobs, you can't throw a stick in any major European city without hitting an American franchise of some kind.

I've run into many fellow Europeans here including huge numbers of English here in California (I'm Italian by the way) and everyone gets along better here than they do in europe, and most of us have one thing in common, we're not going back unless it's to visit.
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I'll gladly accept anyone, white, brown, black, yellow, as a neighbour, & welcome them into this country, but as I've said before, living in England there are quite a few people who come to this country with no intention to live in harmony with the natives, I've worked in many towns, & cities, north, south, east,& west, & have encountered very bad attitudes towards English people, don't get me wrong, I'm not painting all English people as purer than the driven snow, but you would expect us to be able to feel comfortable in our own country, or is that too much to ask?
I've visited Italy, Spain, Germany, France, & Belgium, & personally been made to feel very welcome,Italy & Spain in particular,but am I not allowed to dislike AN attitude of a great many people that proclaims nothing but hatred towards English people?
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Ouch. 2-0 Germany.

Sweden is playing terrible defense.

Terrible.
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Police arrest 122 English fans after disturbances in Stuttgart

June 24, 2006

STUTTGART, Germany (AP) -- German police arrested 122 English fans who had been throwing bottles and glasses at passers-by from a pub terrace early Saturday.

Arriving officers also became targets of what they described as drunken fans in town for their team's World Cup second-round match against Ecuador on Sunday. Eventually the disturbance involved about 200 police, including British officers who helped calm their compatriots.
And a very ugly picture to go along with it, unfortunately:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...stu10406241257
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:37 AM   #413
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Pathetic refereeing again.

Typical localist Brazilian crap.

That was not enough for a yellow card.
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Old 06-24-2006, 11:51 AM   #414
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Did anyone else notice

1) The ref didn't hand out the red card before the German players told him to. How pathetic.

2) He was laughing idiotically when he did. What an amateur.

This World Cup is full of idiot refs.

But we're not allowed to curse them in here
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Did anyone else notice

1) The ref didn't hand out the red card before the German players told him to. How pathetic.

2) He was laughing idiotically when he did. What an amateur.

This World Cup is full of idiot refs.

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Guys I mmissed the 1st half , was sleeping , now I woke up and it's 2-0

Care to say the highlights except the goals

HOLY SHIT SWEEDEN LOST A PENALTY
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Old 06-24-2006, 12:49 PM   #417
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Though I missed the 1st half , I say this , Sweeden lost it when lost the Penalty .

And what more , seems that U2man is sweeden , sorry for ya mate , if it's any comfort , 90% of people were rooting for Sweeden , so DID I , shame Ljiunberg wasnt for the penalty
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Did anyone else notice

1) The ref didn't hand out the red card before the German players told him to. How pathetic.

2) He was laughing idiotically when he did. What an amateur.

This World Cup is full of idiot refs.

But we're not allowed to curse them in here
I didn't notice 1) but on 2).

Agreed, bad referees in this WC.

Bad, bad defense from Sweden - and to top it all they missed the penalty kick.
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FIFA is the worst sports governing body eva , the ref's are scapegoats i believe.

Germany are lookign strong but still without a challange. Sweden were poor.
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