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Old 06-27-2004, 07:27 AM   #16
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How could it ever be unethical?
How would it ever be ethical. ?
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Old 06-27-2004, 07:34 AM   #17
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Because taking citizenship doesn't remove heritage?

Citizency is a piece of paper which can never remove where we are from. We can happily flit from one country to another, welcoming and adopting our new country's practices habits and mores, but sometimes nothjing will cut the ties of where we come from.

Do you have an answer on how it could be unethical?
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I fail to see what ethics and some sense of national pride have to do with each other in the first place really

I could support the soccer team of swahililand if I thought they were the most skilfull players I've ever seen
I don't think that would make me less dutch
just an admirer of the game
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Because taking citizenship doesn't remove heritage?

Citizency is a piece of paper which can never remove where we are from. We can happily flit from one country to another, welcoming and adopting our new country's practices habits and mores, but sometimes nothjing will cut the ties of where we come from.

Do you have an answer on how it could be unethical?
suppose you are good in that sports - you play for country Y. Then would you still root for country X while playing for country Y.
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I fail to see what ethics and some sense of national pride have to do with each other in the first place really

I could support the soccer team of swahililand if I thought they were the most skilfull players I've ever seen
I don't think that would make me less dutch
just an admirer of the game
So will you root for Swahililand in Swahiland Vs Netherland match.

It is correct when you say that Swahililand players has better skills than dutch players ( suppose thats the case)... But will you dance in joy on the streets of Amsterdam ( ) if Swahililand wins agains Dutch

Having an admiration for skills in sports is a good thing irrespective of the nationality... but that was not my question.

Whether you care or dont care..have problem or dont have problem... was not what i was asking
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How is it unethical?

I dont see where ethics even come into it. Can you help out?
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I won't be dancing on any streets even if holland won the world championship in 2006

and I still don't get what ethics would have to do with it either
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How is it unethical?

I dont see where ethics even come into it. Can you help out?
You are happy when your country loses - nothing wrong with it
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Which country do you think A should call their own. X or Y?
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Which country do you think A should call their own. X or Y?
ok i stop.. may be i need a better medium to explain
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Old 06-28-2004, 11:34 PM   #26
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ok i stop.. may be i need a better medium to explain
I think we need a bit of clarification before we can accurately answer your question. Is the person in question merely a fan or is he an athlete/coach/official? I think knowing the answer to that question makes a huge difference.

If the person is simply a fan, then I think supporting the team from the former country is perfectly acceptable. I would even find this person (or any other) supporting any other nation's team acceptable also. Hell, I don't even support every move my country does in the international arena, and I certainly do not think that is unethical! (And I mean this in a political/real life way, not simply sports.)

However, if the person in question is an athlete/coach/official (in the competition, that is), etc., I can see that this situation would be unethical. It is unethical because then the person would have a direct bearing on the outcome of the game. A player who wants his opponent to win isn't exactly going to try very hard. A coach may put in a weaker player, or call a bad play, causing his team to lose. And an official may be biased towards one team.

I can even see that someone with a less direct bearing on the outcome of the game might do something unethical if he was cheering against the team he was now working for. For instance, a scout may not give an accurate picture of the opposing team's strengths and weaknesses, or a team doctor may say a player is fit when he isn't (or vice versa).
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I don't see what could be unethical about it. I was born in England but I didn't support England in Euro 2004 because there are other teams I think play better football and I'd rather see one of them win.
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