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Old 04-16-2008, 05:00 PM   #451
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That's a legitimate point in your first paragraph.

I should set up a statistics page to see which people have used the most different artists. I'd bet the results would be interesting.
That would be interesting.

How did you feel about the second paragraph then?
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"Diversity" is an issue, too. If you include too much of the same type of stuff, it's not diverse enough, but if it's extremely broad, covering different genres of music, then it's too all over the place.

Any of these categories has a fairly sized win/phail section. You can't win, you can only do what you can, really.
I don't think I have ever seen the criticism of something being too all over the place. I could be wrong though.
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But your criticism seems to be about the credits as opposed to the music.
I don't wish for it to appear that way, because that's not the case.

When I hear a Lennon or McCartney song (especially from the 70's), even if the music is different, it still sounds similar to the Beatles. To me, anyway. When I hear Sting, even though he's made a ton of music that sounds different from The Police, his voice is the one constant through it all, and therefore quite similar to me.
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I don't think I have ever seen the criticism of something being too all over the place. I could be wrong though.
Well, that it doesn't "flow," or the changes between songs are jarring. If that's the same thing, I may be wrong.
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I guess I just don't see any connection between those songs. The only connection in the seven songs you've cited I note is the fact that Imagine and Maybe I'm Amazed both are based around the piano. The Frusciante/RHCP sounds totally different and Sting/Police sounds totally different.
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It is just a criticism and I doubt most people vote simply on that. Though it certainly helps in the rankings. I think your playlist is fine as it is. That's what you would take on a desert island but if someone is more diverse than I'll give that category to them.
some people did, or just who had more artists they liked. i thought it was more about who executed their concept better, and/or who had a better flow? it was ridiculous.

some of the people voting either don't know how to give valid criticism, don't fully understand the concept of the game (like what's trying to be accomplished), or i dunno.
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And I still haven't heard a legitimate argument as to how song choice (i.e.: quality and flow) has anything to do with the popularity of the song.
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That would be interesting.

How did you feel about the second paragraph then?
I agree to an extent. While Axver's playlists often have artists that he's used before, he still does change them up. His DI2 playlist was a beautiful, cohesive package of songs from a plethora of artists from different genres. I think it might be my favorite of his.

And last time out, at the beginning, he put on some early stuff that doesn't sound like anything he's used before. Now granted, it eventually shifted gears into more familar territory later on that he's covered before, but at least it had some differences.

I agree about Lance's playlists more. They seem to be of the same ilk, at least the last two, anyway.
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I guess I just don't see any connection between those songs. The only connection in the seven songs you've cited I note is the fact that Imagine and Maybe I'm Amazed both are based around the piano. The Frusciante/RHCP sounds totally different and Sting/Police sounds totally different.
Well, that's the beauty of this. I see a different connection than you. That's how we get different viewpoints of things. If we all saw something the same way, it would get boring real quick.
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some people did, or just who had more artists they liked. i thought it was more about who executed their concept better, and/or who had a better flow? it was ridiculous.

some of the people voting either don't know how to give valid criticism, don't fully understand the concept of the game (like what's trying to be accomplished), or i dunno.
In a perfect world all people would vote like that. I think it is a matter of people not thinking the playlists through enough to give valid criticisms or positives. I hate when someone just leaves a name and that's it or someone doesn't even post. Tell us why you voted one way or another.
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And I still haven't heard a legitimate argument as to how song choice (i.e.: quality and flow) has anything to do with the popularity of the song.
In my mind, it doesn't.
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I agree to an extent. While Axver's playlists often have artists that he's used before, he still does change them up. His DI2 playlist was a beautiful, cohesive package of songs from a plethora of artists from different genres. I think it might be my favorite of his.

And last time out, at the beginning, he put on some early stuff that doesn't sound like anything he's used before. Now granted, it eventually shifted gears into more familar territory later on that he's covered before, but at least it had some differences.

I agree about Lance's playlists more. They seem to be of the same ilk, at least the last two, anyway.
That's fair. It just seems like it's always that dreary, prog/post-rock-punk-something-type of stuff on there, you know? It's a minor knock, because he puts a lot of time and effort into making lists that he's into and fit well for him, but I rarely enjoy listening to them or have that cathartic release I get with other lists of that style - purely my opinion.

His DI2 was my favorite of his as well.
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And I still haven't heard a legitimate argument as to how song choice (i.e.: quality and flow) has anything to do with the popularity of the song.
i don't think one has anything to do with the other. if you think a huge band's biggest hit will help convey your point, use it. not everything has to be obscure song b.
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And I still haven't heard a legitimate argument as to how song choice (i.e.: quality and flow) has anything to do with the popularity of the song.
It doesn't have to do with quality or flow. You just might get a better ranking or grade because of more exotic song choices. That goes along with the creativity.
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