Varitek
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wow i actually found radio dept on my network
Screwtape2 said:
I don't know Nowhere By Ride.
My favorite shoegazer album is Pet Grief by The Radio Dept. Not spectacular but a fun listening experience.
Varitek said:screwtape, let me know if you listen to that stuff what you think of it. i added a text file with about a page of description.
Screwtape2 said:So Axver I take it that you aren't a fan of the art rock subgenre of prog?
Axver said:
Depends what you mean. I call Split Enz art rock and I love them.
Screwtape2 said:
Anyone else in the genre?
Axver said:
Well, like I said, depends what you mean. I've seen "art rock" used to refer to everyone from Talking Heads to Split Enz to Porcupine Tree. I think it's a mostly empty term, but I use it for Split Enz since they weren't really prog, but "art rock" gets across what they were like.
Screwtape2 said:
I was just wondering since you don't talk about many artists I'd consider art rock.
Axver said:
So who do you consider art rock?
Screwtape2 said:
I'd consider Split Enz art rock. Genesis, Focus, Renaissance, Jethro Tull and artists like them.
Axver said:
I'd never consider Genesis art rock. Folky prog is probably what I would go for. And I blame Genesis for killing prog, so.
I haven't listened to Focus or Renaissance besides what you've used in DI and such, but I enjoyed that. I have a passing familiarity with Tull but never made an effort to get into them.
The Sad Punk said:Hey Ax.
Yeah, I just went through the pages I missed. The whole album seems solid throughout. I was already familiar with Last Train to Satansville, which I have always thought was awesome.
Screwtape2 said:
I think Genesis would be art rock. Art rock to me is mixing folk, jazz or classical with progressive tendencies. Genesis mixes all three.
Phil Collins is partially to blame for killing prog in the mainstream. I think when the main artists like Pink Floyd, Genesis and others moved away from their best prog work it took the genre out of the mainstream.
I might actually use Renaissance as one of my CD exchange artists as Todd Rundgren seems too diverse.
Axver said:
Art rock to me is that music to which you can apply the adjective "artsy" - which in itself is kind of empty, but that's why I say "art rock" as a label is empty. I don't consider Genesis arty, but folkish waffling prog.
I don't blame Phil Collins nearly as much as I blame Peter Gabriel. He dropped the Turd On Broadway. That album perfectly defines why people hate prog; overblown, pompous, and pretentious bullshit. And when it comes to Lamb, they're dead right. I hate that album. Same goes for PF's The Wall.