Appreciation of the History of Alternative Rock - Page 2 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Lemonade Stand > Lemonade Stand Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-10-2008, 09:30 PM   #16
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 63,708
Local Time: 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by No spoken words
I think a lot of what pops into your head when you think of "alternative" is predicated on when you were born.
I completely agree with this. As a child of the 80s, "alternative" means something completely different to me than someone who was a teenager in the 90s. I still use the term today, but it's such a loose definition, and things have just changed so much.

Is "indie" the new "alternative"?

And I really gave a huge to the inclusion of Guns and Roses at the end of the initial post. What about them is even remotely alternative? They were signed to a major label and blew the roof off the radio and MTV. That's pretty damned mainstream to me.
__________________

__________________
corianderstem is online now  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:31 PM   #17
Blue Crack Supplier
 
No spoken words's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Where do YOU live?
Posts: 43,241
Local Time: 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by corianderstem


I completely agree with this. As a child of the 80s, "alternative" means something completely different to me than someone who was a teenager in the 90s. I still use the term today, but it's such a loose definition, and things have just changed so much.

Is "indie" the new "alternative"?

And I really gave a huge to the inclusion of Guns and Roses at the end of the initial post. What about them is even remotely alternative? They were signed to a major label and blew the roof off the radio and MTV. That's pretty damned mainstream to me.
Stop derailing the thread by pointing out the flaws in the original post!! Just go along with it and discuss.
__________________

__________________
No spoken words is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:32 PM   #18
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 11:31 PM
I don't think GNR was alternative at all. lol
__________________
Zoots is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:33 PM   #19
Blue Crack Supplier
 
No spoken words's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Where do YOU live?
Posts: 43,241
Local Time: 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Zootlesque
I don't think GNR was alternative at all. lol
Do you know why you think that?

Because they weren't. They were a bad-ass hard rock band that did a little of Nevermind's dirty work before Nevermind was close to being released.
__________________
No spoken words is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:35 PM   #20
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by No spoken words
They were a bad-ass hard rock band
Hell Muthafucking yes!!!
__________________
Zoots is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:37 PM   #21
Blue Crack Supplier
 
No spoken words's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Where do YOU live?
Posts: 43,241
Local Time: 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Zootlesque


Hell Muthafucking yes!!!
But things went South, quickly.

Sadly.

G-d that fucking debut album is still amazing, 20 years later.
__________________
No spoken words is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:39 PM   #22
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by No spoken words
G-d that fucking debut album is still amazing, 20 years later.
Indeed! But Illusion I is still close to my heart.
__________________
Zoots is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:39 PM   #23
Blue Crack Addict
 
Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
Posts: 15,147
Local Time: 05:31 PM
I always thought Tevin Campbell and Bel Biv Devoe were alternative.

... seriously though, I find the "alternative" label to be the least helpful label in the history the world.

Yes. That big.
__________________
Dalton is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:40 PM   #24
ONE
love, blood, life
 
namkcuR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kettering, Ohio
Posts: 10,286
Local Time: 04:31 PM
I didn't really think GnR should be included, I was really on the fence..that's why I only mentioned them at the end and didn't put them anywhere else...the only reason I even thought of them was because the UYI double album came out right at the same time Nirvana/PJ were exploding....I was associating them with the same time period. Which is silly. You're right, they shouldn't be included.
__________________
namkcuR is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:40 PM   #25
Blue Crack Supplier
 
No spoken words's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Where do YOU live?
Posts: 43,241
Local Time: 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Zootlesque


Indeed! But Illusion I is still close to my heart.
Yeah, I like bits from both Illusions...for me, I take them and it makes a pretty good album....but, I loved Guns for things like "Out Ta Get me", and not "November Rain". I wanted more bad-assery, not more ballads. I like Coma a lot, though. There's a part of that song that I fucking adore.
__________________
No spoken words is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:43 PM   #26
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by No spoken words


Yeah, I like bits from both Illusions...for me, I take them and it makes a pretty good album....but, I loved Guns for things like "Out Ta Get me", and not "November Rain". I wanted more bad-assery, not more ballads. I like Coma a lot, though. There's a part of that song that I fucking adore.
Yeah... "bad-assery" did suit them better! But Illusion had some badass stuff too... You Could Be Mine or... The Garden featuring Alice Cooper
__________________
Zoots is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:43 PM   #27
Blue Crack Addict
 
Dalton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
Posts: 15,147
Local Time: 05:31 PM
I spent much of the late 80's and early 90's dreaming of the Beastie Boys open for GNR.
__________________
Dalton is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:44 PM   #28
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 63,708
Local Time: 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by namkcuR
You're right, they shouldn't be included.
okay, good. I was starting to worry about you.

I read the post but didn't catch the GnR part until I went to reply, and then did a total double-take. "Wait ... WHAT?" Ha ha ha.

I'm reading a book by an author who I believe is about my age and it's a memoir of sorts about his lifelong love/obsession with music. The word "indie" is in the title, but at the beginning of the book, he says his definition isn't exclusively what someone might consider "indie" in 2007/2008, but encompasses more of what I (and NSW, I think) consider "alternative." I think he just used "indie" because "alternative" doesn't really seem to exist anymore.

Alternative became more mainstream, and indie is the new alternative. There. I'm making a statement, and not leaving it up to question.
__________________
corianderstem is online now  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:47 PM   #29
ONE
love, blood, life
 
namkcuR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Kettering, Ohio
Posts: 10,286
Local Time: 04:31 PM
Soundgarden's "Superunknown" blows my mind. I just got into listening to the whole record the past few weeks and WOW.

Limo Wreck

The Day I Drived To Live

Like Suicide

Spoonman

Black Hole Sun

etc etc

Chris Cornell might just be my favorite singer out of that group of frontmen(Veddar, Staley, Cornell, Cobain...I don't know why I feel obligated to include Cobain in that list when he couldn't sing for shit compared to the other three).
__________________
namkcuR is offline  
Old 02-10-2008, 09:48 PM   #30
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Zoots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: the great beyond
Posts: 36,802
Local Time: 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by namkcuR
The Day I Drived To Live

Like Suicide


I like both Cornell and Vedder equally though.

Temple of the Dog
__________________

__________________
Zoots is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com