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Old 05-13-2009, 10:14 PM   #496
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Phil Hughes was on Sky in uk and said it would be 5-0 to Aus but he was joking
He hasnt scored enough runs yet to get away with those kind of comments

Its kicking off in england between Chris Gayle and Strauss though
Strauss said Gayle was disrespectful to test cricket for turning up 2 days before lords test (he got 0 & 28)
Gayle hit back saying he could not care less if Test Cricket died and as he is a quality slogger it suits him fine if Twenty20 is the main form of cricket as he will survive AND that Strauss is only worried about test cricket as he cant hack limited overs cricket!

Should be a ref and gloves ready for the toss tomorrow morning
Id be shattered if Test Cricket died. I think it's a funny duel. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum, and they BOTH need to give a fair bit of ground. Strauss is too serious and too rigid: he is steeped in the history of the game, but needs to realise their is validity in Gayle's critisism of him. Gayle IS just a slogger, and probably should retire from Test cricket if that's how he feels about it. Either way, Strauss has played some quality cricket, so has Gayle, but I think they both need to appreciate that neither has earnt the right to be trashing each other's games, because they both aren't exactly the rebirth of Don.

Re Hughes, yes I admit he is too young to have such high hopes for, but I think you are taking him WAY too lightly. The guy tore the best bowling attack in the world to shreds. at 20 years and 90 days he hit Steyn, ntini and Co for 2 100's in 1 test. He has played 5 first class innings in England and scored 3 100's and 2 50's.

Whether he fades out or not, he is the most exciting young prospect world cricket has seen since Tendulkar
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'Prospect' being the operative word there.

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Kudos on th John Hewson call. Ponting thinks being a character is curling his lip over and getting shirty when things don't go his way. He is a cock, and an awful captain. Haddin at least has character. Probably not been there long enough to make any sweeping statements though.
Ponting is a fantastic batsman, but he is also a cock and an awful captain yes. Hopefully Haddin stays in the mould of Gilly and speaks freely.
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Phil Hughes was on Sky in uk and said it would be 5-0 to Aus but he was joking
He hasnt scored enough runs yet to get away with those kind of comments

Its kicking off in england between Chris Gayle and Strauss though
Strauss said Gayle was disrespectful to test cricket for turning up 2 days before lords test (he got 0 & 28)
Gayle hit back saying he could not care less if Test Cricket died and as he is a quality slogger it suits him fine if Twenty20 is the main form of cricket as he will survive AND that Strauss is only worried about test cricket as he cant hack limited overs cricket!

Should be a ref and gloves ready for the toss tomorrow morning
If test cricket died then I would never pay attention to cricket ever again. By absolute miles THE form of the sport.
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Old 05-19-2009, 09:42 PM   #498
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Ashes squad just announced:

Ricky Ponting, captain
Michael Clarke, vice-captain
Stuart Clark
Brad Haddin
Nathan Hauritz
Ben Hilfenhaus
Phillip Hughes
Michael Hussey
Mitchell Johnson
Simon Katich
Brett Lee
Graham Manou
Andrew McDonald
Marcus North
Peter Siddle
Shane Watson

By my reckoning there are 2 spots open. The starting 9 comfortably look like:

1. Phillip Hughes
2. Simon Katich
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Michael Hussey
5. Michael Clarke
6.
7. Brad Haddin
8. Mitchell Johnson
9.
10. Stuart Clark
11. Peter Siddle

Others competing for 1 allrounder spot, and 1 bowler spot. Manou is backup:

Nathan Hauritz
Ben Hilfenhaus
Brett Lee
Graham Manou
Andrew McDonald
Marcus North
Shane Watson

Allrounders:

McDonald
North
Watson

McDonald shouldn't even be looked at. North should be frontrunner as the best bat of the lot, and he brings spin bowling to the table. Watson has been ok in the One-dayers, but that has never been considered a precident for picking test teams. So at 6, North, Watson is a darkhorse.

Bowlers:

Lee
Hilfenhaus
Hauritz

The question is whether to play a quick or a spinner. Hauritz is all but assured of a spot in Cardiff given that it has been widely criticised in the media recently for taking too much turn. The only reason he wouldn't play is that he is not considered an attacking spinner, so that may tip the scales towards another quick with North, Clarke and Katich in the side capable of bowling above average spin. Out of Lee and Hilfenhaus, it has to be Lee. Veteran of 300 wickets, and looks to be in good form judging by his recent 20/20 performances. Obviously not a good Test indication, but will get some warm up games in as well. Biggest positive is that he is bowling quick. Hilfenhaus is an exciting prospect in England because of his swing. His substandard test performances and inexperience count against him. Lee has the edge on the other 2.

My XI would read:

1. Phillip Hughes
2. Simon Katich
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Michael Hussey
5. Michael Clarke
6. Marcus North
7. Brad Haddin
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Brett Lee
10. Stuart Clark
11. Peter Siddle

12. Nathan Hauritz

Others in squad

Shane Watson
Andrew McDonald
Graham Manou
Ben Hilfenhaus
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I wouldn't be suprised if they played one of these two lineups:

1. Phillip Hughes
2. Simon Katich
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Michael Hussey
5. Michael Clarke
6. Marcus North
7. Brad Haddin
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Nathan Hauritz
10. Stuart Clark
11. Peter Siddle

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1. Phillip Hughes
2. Simon Katich
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Michael Hussey
5. Michael Clarke
6. Brad Haddin
7. Mitchell Johnson
8. Brett Lee
9. Nathan Hauritz
10. Stuart Clark
11. Peter Siddle

I think either my first one in the post above, or the second one in the post are most likely
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The 16-man Australian Ashes squad:

Ricky Ponting (captain), Michael Clarke (vice-captain), Simon Katich, Phillip Hughes, Mike Hussey, Marcus North, Andrew McDonald, Shane Watson, Brad Haddin, Graham Manou, Brett Lee, Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle, Stuart Clark, Ben Hilfenhaus, Nathan Hauritz.

No Symonds thank GOD, (he's 34 next month ) and I would think the regular 11 here is going to exclude Hilfenhaus, Hauritz, Manou, McDonald and Watson more often than not. Hard to see Manou getting a game
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OK, I clearly haven't been paying attention lately. Who the hell is Manou?
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Graham Manou, plays for SA I think, and he's the reserve keeper.

Ron Reed from the Herald Sun, inte, predicted Hodge would make the cut be he did not.
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Hodge is too old. They have made it perfectly clear 6 is an allrounders spot, and Hodge's bowling is very sub-standard. You can't drop any of the top 5. It's open and shut.

I think the squad is ok. It just reflects our lack of deph. We have 13 world beaters, and nothin else. In years gone by, we had 20 world beaters, and then about 20 ready to step in
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I'm very confident we'll still win. Ian Botham the dickhead seems to think our bowling line-up is weak.

Oh, and I agree about Hodgey. I still don't get the fascination with having an allrounder. Surely Johnson's proved enough with the bat.
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I'm very confident we'll still win. Ian Botham the dickhead seems to think our bowling line-up is weak.

Oh, and I agree about Hodgey. I still don't get the fascination with having an allrounder. Surely Johnson's proved enough with the bat.
See line-up 3 above...

Johnson should bat 7, Haddin 6, 4 quicks and a spinner.
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I like...

Hughes
Katich
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
North
Haddin
Johnson
Lee
Siddle
Clark

with Hilfenhaus to replace whoever struggles. This way you've got spin covered as well, Katich and North have shown they're pretty able.

Spin is going to be a major problem for us in the future however.
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Just on your certainty starting 9 there.. I think it's a starting 8.

Hughes
Katich
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke

Haddin
Johnson

Siddle
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Fair enough. I realise he hasn't played in a while, but Clark is always the best bowler when he's there. His average is 22

Spin won't be a problem though. 2 names will be on the table for the next 10 years:

John Holland
Beau Casson

They will fight it out for the spot on the next ashes tour. You heard it here first
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Hughes
Katich
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
North
Haddin
Johnson
Lee
Siddle
Clark

.
This.

Though I'd love to see Clark get smashed around in the first test so Hilfy can get in the team.

Shit squad though, for obvious reasons relating to my love affair/bias/whatever for Hodge.

Gonna be hard to support this team....
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I will say re Clark/Siddle batting 10/11, I prefer having Siddle at 11 to hold up an end. Both probably have the same run scoring capacity, but Clark will do it much quicker, and get out much quicker. If it's a case of digging in to get a batsman to 100, Id rather Siddle at the other end.
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