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Old 03-03-2011, 12:45 PM   #301
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Yes, ties suck. And the loser point kind of sucks too. And so does the shootout.

I think I'd like to see them go to a 10 minute OT to at least minimize the shootout factor. I get that they can't have 4OT regular season marathons, but a longer OT period seems like a decent compromise.
I think the loser point is an okay compromise. A case could be made for a 10 minute OT (I assume 4 on 4 still). The travel/time demands are so great though, whatever can be done to end a game in a reasonable amount of time with a satisfying end gets my vote, so I'm happy with the current system.
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Yeah...

Hockey is a very grueling sport and takes a toll on a players body. 10 minute OTs would be great for fans but ridiculous for the players. Unfair, would never pass through the NHL or the NHLPA.
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Old 03-04-2011, 05:48 AM   #303
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Well the Sabres look to have their future secured with a new owner with seemingly unlimited cash and a love of hockey, which is a good thing.

The Coyotes and Thrashers are drawing, what, less than 10k a game each? The Coyotes situation has been worsening in recent weeks, and the Thrashers owners are looking to sell or relocate, so anything can happen.

That said, Winnipeg will probably get first shot at an NHL franchise relocation since the arena is already there.

I'd love to see Quebec get a team back, though. The city has a homogeneous, sleepy government town vibe (like Ottawa with more sacres) and it could use a kick in the pants from a new arena for a new Nordiques.

I'm a Montrealer at heart but a little in-province competition would be nice to get this city running at a higher clip.

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As far as the shootout, I prefer it over the tie, but the boobie prize point for making it to overtime sucks.

Comparisons to European football should not be used, because even I, who love the Beautiful Game, think deciding series on aggregate goals is fucking stupid. Comparisons to MLB are also unfair, because baseball is close enough to being an individual sport and they're not rolling lines every minute or two for 60 minutes of play.

At the end of the day, you want to give the fans attending a regular-season game a product that will entertain them, not destroy the players with 4 OTs of extra time, and send everyone home on a weeknight early enough for work the next morning.

The shootout isn't a great solution, but it's better than nothing. If anything get rid of the pity point for losing in OT/SO.
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GO BRUINS

THIS LOOKS LIKE THE YEAR
OH GOD IF YOU'RE OUT THERE .....
please atleast eastern conference finals please
notanother nightmare in the playoffs ......

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Well the Sabres look to have their future secured with a new owner with seemingly unlimited cash and a love of hockey, which is a good thing.

The Coyotes and Thrashers are drawing, what, less than 10k a game each? The Coyotes situation has been worsening in recent weeks, and the Thrashers owners are looking to sell or relocate, so anything can happen.

That said, Winnipeg will probably get first shot at an NHL franchise relocation since the arena is already there.

I'd love to see Quebec get a team back, though. The city has a homogeneous, sleepy government town vibe (like Ottawa with more sacres) and it could use a kick in the pants from a new arena for a new Nordiques.

I'm a Montrealer at heart but a little in-province competition would be nice to get this city running at a higher clip.
I'm with you, I'd love to see the Nordiques return. I know my own Whalers are never coming back, but it would be nice to see Quebec and Winnipeg get their teams back...and IMO Habs/Nordiques is as good a rivalry as their is in sports. Obviously a team like Montreal, with their history of success, is going to have several "rivals" (Boston, Toronto), but I've always gotten the sense those rivalries mean more to Bruins and Leafs fans; the Montreal/Quebec thing seemed to be a lot more mutual.
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I'm with you, I'd love to see the Nordiques return. I know my own Whalers are never coming back, but it would be nice to see Quebec and Winnipeg get their teams back...and IMO Habs/Nordiques is as good a rivalry as their is in sports. Obviously a team like Montreal, with their history of success, is going to have several "rivals" (Boston, Toronto), but I've always gotten the sense those rivalries mean more to Bruins and Leafs fans; the Montreal/Quebec thing seemed to be a lot more mutual.
Back in the days when Quebec was playing in the NHL the announcements made on the PA Announcer was in French

Eric Lindros refused to play in Quebec because he wanted nothing to do with French Canadiens

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The Original NHL used to be a very Canadian thing (French Canada and all), but when the states took over (some time in the late 90s); they tried to give it a McDonalds franchises in cities kind of appeal.

It could only last so long before everyone wants to vomit from Franchise food
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Well the Sabres look to have their future secured with a new owner with seemingly unlimited cash and a love of hockey, which is a good thing.
He also basically owns Penn State hockey now, which is drumming up a lot of excitement here.
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Back in the days when Quebec was playing in the NHL the announcements made on the PA Announcer was in French

Eric Lindros refused to play in Quebec because he wanted nothing to do with French Canadiens

etc

The Original NHL used to be a very Canadian thing (French Canada and all), but when the states took over (some time in the late 90s); they tried to give it a McDonalds franchises in cities kind of appeal.

It could only last so long before everyone wants to vomit from Franchise food

I have no idea what this means.
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Afternoon games aren't always great for the Canucks, but it was a good one today. Seemed like the majority of people in the Kings' arena were Canucks fans, which is awesome.
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Let's face it, organized ice hockey has a very high $$$ barrier to entry if a kid wants to play anything more than a pickup game of shinny.

I'm really not surprised the NHL has failed to make a dent in a large, urban market like Atlanta where a young inner city kid can go to the park and play basketball or football or baseball for next to nothing.

I wonder if there's ever been any decent sociological studies into youth hockey, the money it takes to compete at the organized level, and whether demographics like race figure into it a lot.

Ice time ain't cheap.
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It's neat watching Roloson play, he used to play for the farm team of the Calgary Flames, which was in our city. I met him, shook his hand, got his autograph and a stick. It's very rewarding to watch all these players I watched in the AHL and QMJHL move on up and kick ass. I want the Habs to win, but still.. it's a neat feeling.
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Hey, the Lightning are basically Montreal Canadiens South, or at least they have all the francophone superstars and coach we want
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Hey, the Lightning are basically Montreal Canadiens South, or at least they have all the francophone superstars and coach we want
Correction, the Florida Panthers. We're 'home' when you guys come around town.

'home'.
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Correction, the Florida Panthers. We're 'home' when you guys come around town.

'home'.
Its only a true American competition with names such as Tremblay, St Denis, Desjardins, Thibault, Fleury being prominent household names
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Oh I'm just more commenting on the fact that 4 out of every 5 fans are Canadiens fans in a Canadiens @ Panthers game. And it sells out.
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