The Cure: 4:13 DREAM

[the tourist]

I can't believe people think this is their worst album. It's way better than the self-titled, or Wild Mood Swings for sure. And I personally like it better than any of the albums from before The Head On The Door.

 

[u2popmofo]

have trouble seeing how Disintegration is in any way emblematic of a "typical" Cure sound.

I didn't say that at all, so I'm having trouble seeing how you took that from what I wrote.

 

[djerdap]

I can't believe people think this is their worst album. It's way better than the self-titled, or Wild Mood Swings for sure. And I personally like it better than any of the albums from before The Head On The Door.

Eh? The brilliance of Pornography is light years ahead of this washed up, tired stuff.

Although Underneath the Stars is a great song.

 

[the tourist]

I've never really enjoyed Pornography, no matter how much everyone tells me I should.

 

[cdisantis83]

I didn't say that at all, so I'm having trouble seeing how you took that from what I wrote.

"I personally LOVE 'Underneath the Stars', and don't get the "trying to sound like Disintegration" argument at all. That IS what The Cure has sounded like for decades."

What other interpretation can you take from this statement? "That" is either referring to Disintegration or "trying to sound like Disintegration," and if they have been adhering to "that" for decades than it must be in some way typical.

 

[u2popmofo]

The Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography era of the band is presently my favorite "era" of the band. Ironically, at one point Seventeen Seconds and Faith were my least favorite of their albums. I've always dug Pornography (the album, pervs!)

Speaking of which, I remember when I was in school I once tried to look up some Cure lyrics on a computer in the university library and the page got blocked and froze the computer because the album's title was "Pornography". I freaked expecting the library gestapo to make me explain why I was looking up "pornography" in the library, but nothing happened.

 

[u2popmofo]

"I personally LOVE 'Underneath the Stars', and don't get the "trying to sound like Disintegration" argument at all. That IS what The Cure has sounded like for decades."

What other interpretation can you take from this statement? "That" is either referring to Disintegration or "trying to sound like Disintegration," and if they have been adhering to "that" for decades than it must be in some way typical.

Ah, I think my wording caused the confusion. The "That" was in reference to Underneath the Stars general guitar sound/style. I was saying that I don't think they're "trying to sound like Disintegration" in that song. I had meant that the sprawling RS guitar riffing type tracks (I don't really know how to explain the sound, but it's found on every album they've done since Kiss Me) have been a major part of The Cure's signature sound for decades, and isn't something solely found on Disintegration. See songs like The Kiss, The Snakepit, Open, From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea, Trust, End, Jupiter Crash, Out of This World, Bloodflowers, The Promise, Underneath the Stars, etc.

I personally think all of these songs share a similar warm sprawling "Robert Smith guitar riffing sound/style" that is as much of a signature sound for The Cure as The Edge's chimey delayed guitar is for U2. It's the type of sound I not only expect from The Cure, but almost crave to hear. I guess I'm just surprised to hear some people not loving Underneath the Stars, as it's easily the best thing about the album for me so far.

 

[the tourist]

The Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography era of the band is presently my favorite "era" of the band. Ironically, at one point Seventeen Seconds and Faith were my least favorite of their albums. I've always dug Pornography (the album, pervs!)

My favourite era is from Head On The Door to Wish. I love those four albums. Kinda like how I feel about U2 from 1983-1990.

 

[u2popmofo]

My favourite era is from Head On The Door to Wish. I love those four albums. Kinda like how I feel about U2 from 1983-1990.

That's definitely their "classic Cure" period, great stuff. The majority of their big hits seem to fall in that period. Similar to what I said about The Beatles, I think I've over-listened to that period and that's what helped me "re-discover" some of the other periods. I seem to always overdo it and tire myself out with everything I love, music and otherwise....

 

[cdisantis83]

I personally think all of these songs share a similar warm sprawling "Robert Smith guitar riffing sound/style" that is as much of a signature sound for The Cure as The Edge's chimey delayed guitar is for U2. It's the type of sound I not only expect from The Cure, but almost crave to hear. I guess I'm just surprised to hear some people not loving Underneath the Stars, as it's easily the best thing about the album for me so far.

I see now. I suppose that I was referring to the lush, layered arrangements and treated vocals of the track - those things for me put it firmly in line with Disintegration - but I see your point about the guitars. Let me also say that I find "Underneath the Stars" to be a very strong track, and clearly the standout from the album. Yet The Cure is up against higher standards than most bands, and frankly I expected more from them on this album. Compared to the majority of what I hear these days, however, 4:13 Dream is certainly a strong album. The band certainly did spoil us with albums like Pornography, Head on the Door, and Disintegration.

 

[the tourist]

Sleep When I'm Dead is probably my fav.

 

[the tourist]

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ETA: wrong thread.

 

[u2popmofo]

Yet The Cure is up against higher standards than most bands, and frankly I expected more from them on this album. Compared to the majority of what I hear these days, however, 4:13 Dream is certainly a strong album. The band certainly did spoil us with albums like Pornography, Head on the Door, and Disintegration.

Very true.

Considering what a mess it was for them to finally get this album released, it will be interesting to see if the "dark album" really will come out soon or if it will take years. Hopefully it delivers when it is released.

 

[whatAday]

My favourite era is from Head On The Door to Wish. I love those four albums. Kinda like how I feel about U2 from 1983-1990.

that's my favourite era, too! and i don't understand this pornohraphy obsession either.

 

[kingofsorrow]

that's my favourite era, too! and i don't understand this pornohraphy obsession either.

it's all about what cure songs you like. some folks like HOTD/KMKMKM, because they're more pop oriented. some like the 17 seconds -pornography period because they like the more darker cure material. that simple.

 

[the tourist]

I like the goth period, yes, but not nearly as much as the pop period.

 

[whatAday]

fuck all those periods, i love the band! D

 

[u2popmofo]

The Cure are on Leno on Thursday.

Which song will they play?

 

[FitzChivalry]

I really haven't loved a Cure album since "Wish", though "Bloodflowers" was really good. However, they're part of my musical childhood and upbringing, AND their 80s output is just absolutely spectacular. So I still love them based on that alone, and now:

They're playing a FREE MySpace Secret Show tonight at The Troubadour (which is about the size of 3 or 4 small living rooms put together)! I can only imagine how crazy that line-to-get-in-is going to be. They said absolutely no line-ups before Noon and I didn't find out about it until 11:15, and it takes about 45 minutes to drive into L.A. and find parking, so I didn't even bother trying to go down.

But how cool is it going to be for those who get in!

 

[u2popmofo]

That would have been awesome, Fitz. Wish you would have gone so I could hear how it was. I believe they're playing the KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas show tonight. I think there's a live webcast of the show too, I may have to make a thread about it, numerous good bands.

They played 'The Perfect Boy' on Leno the other night. It sounded quite good, but Robert really is starting to look horrible... For the longest time, I really haven't cared at all how he looks, but yeah, the Leno performance was easy on the eyes. Luckily it was great on the ears.

 

[whatAday]

anyone going to see them at 02 arena?

 

[u2popmofo]

I don't know what 02 arena is.

I listened to 'Push' and 'The Blood' this morning while getting ready for work. Head on the Door rules.

 

[whatAday]

I don't know what 02 arena is.

I listened to 'Push' and 'The Blood' this morning while getting ready for work. Head on the Door rules.

oh, sorry. O2 arena is a huge venue in London. One of the biggest with Wembely Arena. Depeche Mode play at 02 this year

 

[u2popmofo]

So are you going to see The Cure there then?


I've been in the mood to listen to the Faith and Bloodflowers albums lately, and I'm not in a "depressed mood" at all.

 

[No spoken words]

So are you going to see The Cure there then?


I've been in the mood to listen to the Faith and Bloodflowers albums lately, and I'm not in a "depressed mood" at all.

I'd be depressed if I were you.

 

[u2popmofo]

I'd be depressed if I were you.

Just so you know, that will almost definitely be my avatar come this October.

 

[bono_212]

So...I take back what I originally said about this album, I actually like it a great deal. I'm not sure if that's just my general current fascination with the Cure speaking or not, but I tend to believe not, because I flat out can admit that I don't like KMKMKM.

 

[Exit thru Wire]

Enjoying this new album, especially Underneath the Stars, The Scream and It's Over

Saw them perform The Only One on BBC last nite and they looked in good mood ahead of the Big Gig on Thursday!

I guess to anyone who hasnt picked up the album, Id say its well worth a look. Of course it isnt Disintegration or Bloodflowers etc but it has a lot of different ideas like KMKMKM and Wish - and I reckon there is something there for everybody.

 

[whatAday]

So are you going to see The Cure there then?


I've been in the mood to listen to the Faith and Bloodflowers albums lately, and I'm not in a "depressed mood" at all.

yes i am, but i only got seating tickets

 

[u2popmofo]

yes i am, but i only got seating tickets

It'll still be great. The first time I saw them I was so far back I could barely tell who was who on the stage, and it was probably one of the best shows I've ever been to.