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Old 06-11-2012, 01:03 PM   #856
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I personally would much rather have those in their catalogue than have them play three-quarters of OK Computer 15 years after its release.
That's not what I meant at all. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, etc.

Considering they have eight albums now, two or three songs a night from each is sufficient from any one record. 4 unreleased is overkill if you aren't even attempting this and stacking the back end with new material that the crowd isn't responding all that well to (Lotus Flower went over very well, but Codex and Give Up The Ghost resulted in a lot of chatter, as great as they were). It's not about nostalgia or pandering, it's about making a set that flows. One tempo, one pace for a massive chunk of the set is a poor way to get a crowd engaged, regardless of the albums you draw from.

There There and Bodysnatchers, though they were not from the albums most would refer to as "classics," worked brilliantly all the same because they gave us an excuse to move. Radiohead has a great number of tracks with this kind of power, and many of them are from the earlier records. They can kill two birds with one stone by taking some of the heavier tracks from those. If they want to be assholes and pretend they're on an entirely different plane of existence than they once were (personally, if the product is King of Limbs vs. OK Computer, I wish they would regress), they could at least get 2+2=5 or I Might Be Wrong in there most nights, along with Paranoid Android, Bodysnatchers, There There, The National Anthem, and hell, maybe Planet Telex. Then do what you need to do the rest of the way. And look, you've represented nearly every album with 18 tracks left over!

I do think you are all reading my review a great deal more negatively than necessary because, taken in a vacuum, I think it was an objectively great show. But I've seen this band structure a far more engaging set (though probably not as curious as that one), and the results rank among the best shows I've ever seen. Bliss. I think there is a reason for the criticism that the tour has received (most infamously at Glastonbury) and it's not because those complaining are only familiar with Creep and Karma Police. I thought the first few legs of 360 dragged too, until U2 introduced the Achtung Baby tracks to shoot some life into the set. And they didn't shoot life into the set because the songs were "hits," but because they sound great live.
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:23 PM   #857
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I hate that we've filled out a couple of pages with discussion about this when, to be honest, I probably wouldn't have said a word had they subbed a few of the unreleased tracks out for an OK Computer and Amnesiac track. Maybe I'm just stuck in the past; Atease is jerking off to the set we got.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:10 PM   #858
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I think my initial knee-jerk response to this topic was the assertion that playing da hitz was pandering to the audience and that kind of rubbed me the wrong way.
Oh shit, was it me that first brought it up when I mentioned the Seattle review that was peeved about not hearing the big songs?

Many apologies if I caused the knee-jerk reaction. I certainly don't think that anyone's Radiohead taste is stoooopid if they want to hear those songs.
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Atease is jerking off to the set we got.
Well, a new song debuted, so of course.

The new/old argument is a dead horse at this point. Playing a hits heavy set pretty much means conceding irrelevance; I have no problem with Radiohead playing most/all of their latest album. I just wish said album was not so crappy/boring.

When I saw PJ Harvey last year, she played only a handful of oldies and all of Let England Shake. Which was awesome, because it's a fantastic album. It was much more thrilling to hear the new stuff than hearing her trot out Down by the Water or Big Exit for the umpteenth time.

Granted I've seen both those artists multiple times on multiple tours. I understand it would kinda suck if this were your first and only time seeing them.
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Show kicked ass. I don't think I could ever get tired of watching these guys play music live. I just wanted them to keep going and going. So great.

Street Spirit was probably the ultimate highlight of the show for me. I got a bit teary eyed during IMMERSE YOUR SOUL IN LOVE. One of my very favorite Radiohead songs, and I was so happy that they gave it to us at the end of the set. I thought for sure that Weird Fishes was going to be the closer, because Thommy said something like "Alright, this is it!" before the start of the song. But then that unmistakable Street Spirit guitar line kicked in, and I just started screaming.

The band is in really fine form (not a surprise) and Thom sounds very, very good. He also had jokes! Thom Yorke's got jokes! He's so god damned adorable, this guy. When they wheeled out the piano for EIIRP, he got all playfully inquisitive and was saying "What's this? What's this for?" and when he was doing the band introductions he correctly introduced Clive Deamer and Jonny and then turned to Ed and said "What's your name? Who are you?" And then he told the crowd that Phil's name was Charlie, and turned to Colin and said "What's your name again?" Hilarious. He finished it off by saying "Who am I? I don't even know who I am anymore."

There There ruled. Karma Police -> Reckoner -> Lotus Flower -> Myxomatosis was a really nice section of the set. Awesome to hear Karma Police...it got the best audience reaction of the night. And Myxomatosis is awesome live, maybe the most aggressive song of the night, and Thom really got into the performance.

Fuck the guy that was screaming "PLAY CREEP!" super loudly during Codex. Fuck him right in the nose.

Heart this band.
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GAF, what did you think of the One I Love snippet? Pretty badass, right? Some asshole behind us screamed MICHAEL FUCKKINNGGG STIPPPEEE during it, which I think is the name of the guy who wrote it.

Ashley was really out of it during Street Spirit. Our dialogue:

Me: HOLY FUCK :tries to grab her arm:
Ashley: W-what?
Me: Street Spirit, Ashley! Street Spirit!
Ashley: ....
Me: :sings along:
Ashley: :gets up on her own: Wait, what is this?
Me: Street Spirit!
Ashley: Holy shit!
Me: I know! Holy fuck.
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Myxomatosis was the one song I was bummed to not get this last time. I'll never get tired of that song live.
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GAF, what did you think of the One I Love snippet? Pretty badass, right? Some asshole behind us screamed MICHAEL FUCKKINNGGG STIPPPEEE during it, which I think is the name of the guy who wrote it.

Ashley was really out of it during Street Spirit. Our dialogue:

Me: HOLY FUCK :tries to grab her arm:
Ashley: W-what?
Me: Street Spirit, Ashley! Street Spirit!
Ashley: ....
Me: :sings along:
Ashley: :gets up on her own: Wait, what is this?
Me: Street Spirit!
Ashley: Holy shit.
Me: I know! Holy fuck.
Oh yeah, really nice to hear the R.E.M. The crowd gave a pretty big roar once they picked up on what Thom was singing, and that actually kinda drowned out the first couple seconds of the opening piano riff on EIIRP, which is one of the coolest moments in Radiohead's catalogue. Still awesome, though. Stunning song.

Haha, yeah. Great moment. I love basically everything this band's ever done, but I'm still the guy whose dream Radiohead set list would be The Bends and OKC played all the way through. They've always been my two favorite albums by the band, and always will be. That's just me, though. Still to this day, give me any song off of either album and I will flip my shit.

I totally get that they're kinda "over" playing that stuff, and it's all good. The show was phenomenal. Beggars can't be choosers and all that.

Someday I'll just kidnap the band and force them to play every song on The Bends for me, in my living room. I will feed them pizza and Mountain Dew and willingly release them once they've finished the concert.
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I'd happily pay $75 to see Radiohead play Hail To The Thief and King of Limbs from front to back, but I would pay a lot more for The Bends/OK Computer. Unless of course I went the kidnapping route, in which case I wouldn't have to pay a dime.

No offense to U2, but Identikit and Ful Stop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glastonbury and North Star. I have mixed feelings about unreleased material, but Radiohead generally made it work. I'm not a huge Staircase fan, and it didn't knock my socks off, but the other two did. I think they have a great record in the works.
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Staircase isn't unreleased.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:10 PM   #866
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Right, I forgot, it's the Daily Mail's "b-side."

Did they drop that one completely? I liked it pretty well.
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Ful Stop had an ear-catching, intense drone throughout it. Strong sound. And then Thom starting doing that crazy yelping thing about 2/3rds of the way through it. Good hook.

I liked Ful Stop more than Identikit.
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That's not what I meant at all. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, etc.
lol, sorry

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It's not about nostalgia or pandering, it's about making a set that flows.
Fair enough.

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I do think you are all reading my review a great deal more negatively than necessary
I thought so. Sorry.


GAF > glad you enjoyed it! You're generally a concert happy-camper, aren't you?


I love The Daily Mail at the shows I saw. I was surprised by how good it was live and how it seemed most of the audience knew the song and were really into it.

Ful Stop sounded pretty cool - a lot better than its beach clips.
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Identikit was crazily awesome on the Coachella webcast, I absolutely loved it. I was disappointed by it at the DC show though. Not familiar enough with the song to know what I was disappointed by, but it didn't have anywhere near the impact I was expecting after Coachella. Maybe my expectations were too high.
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I think that Coachella webcast was the overall best performance I saw on this tour.
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