Who here smokes?

[jammin909]

Theres just something about sitting around online, listening to music and smoking cigs.

 

[DeadMansParty]

I do and I unfortunately enjoy it too much to want to quit.

ditto

 

[Got Philk?]

Im not Livluv, but I want to answer about those commercials. They kind of bug me too. But when I see them, I don't think they'll change one's mind who already smokes very often. I would say I see them more as a marketing ploy designed for youth who may be starting or thinking of starting. Kind of a scare tactic.

Again, maybe not the best ideas come from these commercials, but they believe in what they are doing and I guess do whatever to try and stop it. But in the end, I don't see them stopping smoking ever.

Can I say this however, I have had and continue to have voice problems at times. I will honestly say it really is inconvenient for me to eat out at certain places or go out with friends b/c of the second hand smoke. I often end up coughing, or somewhat losing my voice in these situations. I don't smoke, I really don't care if one decides to, but I will say it is nice to go into certain places and not have to worry about a coughing attack coming b/c of smokey conditions. Just my 2 cents.

 

[FlyYourKite]

I've had a few here and there but don't particularly care for it. And after working with patients on a thoracic surgery floor and seeing what smokers cough up...I can honestly say I will never touch one again.

But I don't have a problem with others who do it - it's individual. Unless you're inflicting second-hand smoke on those who don't want it.

 

[youtooellen]

There's such a fine line between enabling (ignoring the problem, doing nothing to offer support, advice, or any kind of help) and harassment. The line is in a different spot for each individual so encouraging/supporting a love one to stop smoking is a very difficult thing. I'm guessing you're young like me, but the people my dad's age and my grandpa's age....their time is coming. "Harassment" or not, an intervention was needed/is needed in both cases. There is no physical way my grandpa could've simply stopped and there's no way my dad will be able to try without some tough love.

Yeah, I guess that's true. But for me, my opinion is the way it is 'cause since I was a kid like five or six years old, I constantly asked my dad why he smoked and stuff. and he was always irritable back then when I asked him, so I eventually just stopped asking. he still smokes to this day (he started in his teens), and now I don't even bother telling him to stop now. Because when me or any other close family member ask him to stop, he just gets overly irritated and sometimes furious.

I guess different reactions for different loved ones. But I know what you mean by it being necessary in certain cases.

 

[Utoo]

Best bumper sticker I've ever seen:

"Cancer Cures Smoking."

 

[ylimeU2]

Im not Livluv, but I want to answer about those commercials. They kind of bug me too. But when I see them, I don't think they'll change one's mind who already smokes very often. I would say I see them more as a marketing ploy designed for youth who may be starting or thinking of starting. Kind of a scare tactic.

Again, maybe not the best ideas come from these commercials, but they believe in what they are doing and I guess do whatever to try and stop it. But in the end, I don't see them stopping smoking ever.

Can I say this however, I have had and continue to have voice problems at times. I will honestly say it really is inconvenient for me to eat out at certain places or go out with friends b/c of the second hand smoke. I often end up coughing, or somewhat losing my voice in these situations. I don't smoke, I really don't care if one decides to, but I will say it is nice to go into certain places and not have to worry about a coughing attack coming b/c of smokey conditions. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks for your input about the commercials. Like I said, they kind of irritate me, and I really was curious about how nonsmokers see them.

And as a smoker, I honestly try to be aware of the people around me. I don't smoke in restraunts, even if there is a smoking section. I will in bars that allow it. However, if I go anywhere with a group of nonsmokers, I just don't do it at all.

 

[Sicy]

^ I am the same way. Well, here in California you CANT smoke in restaurants or bars so I have no choice. However, I as a smoker find it annoying and disgusting to eat with a bunch of smokers around me. I like to enjoy my cigarette after I eat not during eating, and I dont mind going outside to smoke. I also try to be cautious not to blow smoke in the way of people or smoke in crowded places, even outside because it is inconsiderate to the people who dont like smoking.

People can tell you or harrass you to quit as much as they want but the fact is it will do absolutely no good unless YOU WANT to quit.

So dont bother people!!! lol.

 

[Windmilllane]

I don't smoke.

But women who smoke are a huge turn-on. I find women who smoke are bad, naughty, slutty girls who know how to work it in the bedroom. Women who smoke are not the kind you take home to mom, let's put it that way. They're not Suzie Q. church-going do-gooders. They have a bitchy attitude, which is a huge turn-on, and they get what they want.

 

[Niamh_Saoirse]

Strong

You think those are strong?

I used to smoke Parissiene: black tobacco and no filter. I used to be a tough bitch!

Now I smoke Lucky Strike or Marlboro or I just buy some tobacco and roll me own ciggies.

 

[Niamh_Saoirse]

I don't smoke.

But women who smoke are a huge turn-on. I find women who smoke are bad, naughty, slutty girls who know how to work it in the bedroom. Women who smoke are not the kind you take home to mom, let's put it that way. They're not Suzie Q. church-going do-gooders. They have a bitchy attitude, which is a huge turn-on, and they get what they want.

That is such a cliche.

 

[Chizip]

That is such a cliche.

youre naughty and you know it

 

[Sicy]

:ignore:

:ignore:

:ignore:

 

[ylimeU2]

I don't smoke.

But women who smoke are a huge turn-on. I find women who smoke are bad, naughty, slutty girls who know how to work it in the bedroom. Women who smoke are not the kind you take home to mom, let's put it that way. They're not Suzie Q. church-going do-gooders. They have a bitchy attitude, which is a huge turn-on, and they get what they want.

The fact that you said that proves you know absolutly nothing about it.

Which you have stated yourself on many occasions. Women don't like you cause you're not a hottie, right? Well, that includes smokers.

 

[Windmilllane]

That is such a cliche.

There is scientific proof that women who smoke are more sexually active than women who don't smoke. Women who smoke love to have sex, porno-style (doggy-style, hot oral, anal). Women who don't smoke are prudes who only have boring sex, if any.

 

[Achtung_Bebe]

your sex obsession is repulsive. Don't bring science into your twisted observations, thanks.

 

[Sicy]

Hey Windmilllane my finger is on the ban button because you're doing your trolling know it all garbage shit again and I'm done warning you. Do you care? If so then leave now.

 

[I'm Ready]

windmillane disappoints me

anyways, as a nonsmoker, I will admit I can't stand the smell of smoke (marijuana smoke makes me feel sick), so I think Sicy and ylimeU2 are doing the right thing and avoiding nonsmokers

 

[Liesje]

Let me ask you this, Livluv. And we've had arguments in the past and I'm really now trying to start one now. I really am curious. I agree, there is a fine line. I have friends who encourage me to quit, but right now, they don't push to hard. I'm still young and I think they know I will do it when I'm ready. Anyway, what do you think of (and anyone else here) statements like this one:


Or the commercials where a kid is running around licking trashcans. Do you think that's helpful in anyway, or do you think it just serves to piss people off, put their guards up? I know I find a lot of that stuff pretty offensive and unhelpful to the extreme and it certainly doesn't, in any way, encourage me to stop smoking.

No hard feelings (I honestly can't recall any major disagreements we've had in the past).

Anyway, I'm not really sue what that statement means or where it came from, so no comment there. I don't want to get too into detail because I'm not here to preach about smoking. As for commercials, do you mean those TRUTH commercials? I don't really care one way or the other. Most of those commercials are put on by tobacco companies anyway.

Basically, I feel like when it comes to quitting smoking, yes it makes sense for people to get annoyed at ads or random people bitching to them about smoking. However, when it comes from close family or friends, I think that's different. Smoking is dangerous and is an addiction just like alcoholism, heroin, crystal meth, anorexia. How many heroin addicts do you know that could simply make the choice to quit on their own without any tough love? I'm not talking about casual/social smokers, I'm talking about people who have smoked at the very least once a day starting at age 14. The idea that my dad could one day just decide on his own that quitting is the right choice is almost laughable to me. Like most serious addictions, there will come a time when an intervention is necessary. My grandpa refused to cooperate until his fourth heart attack put him in a coma - that was his intervention.

See, it's been my experience (again, with hardcore smoking addicts, not social smokers) that society treats smoking as something that's different than other addictions, something less serious. And not just in terms of the smoker's health, but what a smoking addiction can do to a family, how easily a family can be destroyed. It seems like no one wants to call people out on this, but I think smoking is a very serious addiction. In some ways it can almost be more harmful, emotionally, than some others because society doesn't think it's a big deal, so the smoker doesn't think it's a big deal, but he KNOWS it IS a big deal, so then gets very ashamed, embarrassed, and frustrated because there is this expectation that smoking isn't a big deal and he should just be able to suck it up and quit with little more effort than a shrug.

I hope I'm making sense and I'll stop there because this is probably a topic for another thread. But this is how I feel based on my own personal experiences with people addicted to smoking for 30+ years. Like I said, unfortunately there is a fine line between enabling and harassment and not much room in between. To make it even more difficult, every person is different and needs a customized support system.

 

[Liesje]

There is scientific proof that women who smoke are more sexually active than women who don't smoke. Women who smoke love to have sex, porno-style (doggy-style, hot oral, anal). Women who don't smoke are prudes who only have boring sex, if any.

Wow, you taught Mr. Winky to type! Cute

Tell your brain to remind Mr. Winky that correlation does not prove causation. Smoking and sexual behaviors have little to do with each other and more to do with the type of person more likely to engage in both.

 

[u2bonogirl]

There is scientific proof that women who smoke are more sexually active than women who don't smoke. Women who smoke love to have sex, porno-style (doggy-style, hot oral, anal). Women who don't smoke are prudes who only have boring sex, if any.

You've had sex?
I was under the impression that you were hideous, and girls would only do good looking guys.

You obviously know nothing about nice girls. They arent always so nice on all occasions

 

[BAW]

You obviously know nothing about nice girls. They arent always so nice on all occasions

Don't play his game Tara. I'm sure he's counting on the girls here to defend themselves by talking about their sex lives and that just gives him jack-off material.

 

[u2bonogirl]

Ew. Good point

I wasn't planning on giving any of my details


As far as smokers go, I smoked. Camel straights. Yuck.
But I quit before I was legally able to buy them. lol.
My mom is quitting for the millionth time right now. I hope it sticks.
My dad quit in a day

 

[phanan]

I remember trying smoking as a kid because, obviously, some of my friends were. I probably did it once or twice, and was like, so what's the big deal?

I haven't smoked since.

 

[MacHat]

I don't smoke, never have never will. I think it's disgusting.
though once I was the model for a mates photgraphy project and I had to model with ciggies, I accidentally inhaled and it was the most foul thing I've ever tasted .

My dad used to smoke 40 a day, then one day in the late 70s he woke up and couldn't breath, so he quite cold turkey and hasn't touched one since.

 

[JMScoopy]

You've had sex?

If i was Windmillwhatshisname, i would say "Yeah, i've had sex, you wanna see?"

Then if i wanted to be really bold, i would say: "Cause by the looks of your photo, i would love to show you."

Just Kidding, i would never say that stuff to a nice young lady, well, not sober anyway.

 

[digsy]

i've never smoked except for the standard attempt at a drag or 2 when i was a kid. in fact i was well pissed off when i was about 16 and my mother accused me of smoking because my friends were and i was coming home smelling of it. she just presumed i was and nothing i could say would change her mind, i think i even got grounded for it and i didn't even smoke!

that said...i really like the smell of cigarettes
i love the smell of tobacco before its lit and i love the smell of a freshly lit cigarette... i dunno why, i always have.
on the other hand i hate the smell of stale smoke on people and in my clothes and hair after a night out. and i had an ex who used to wake up in the morning, and before he'd even sat up, he'd reach over and have a fag, first thing in the morning while still in bed. i never understood that!!

Can I say this however, I have had and continue to have voice problems at times. I will honestly say it really is inconvenient for me to eat out at certain places or go out with friends b/c of the second hand smoke. I often end up coughing, or somewhat losing my voice in these situations. I don't smoke, I really don't care if one decides to, but I will say it is nice to go into certain places and not have to worry about a coughing attack coming b/c of smokey conditions. Just my 2 cents.

this right there is one of the reason i never started smoking... i have "voice issues" that effect my breathing as well... one drag and i stop breathing properly, its not fun. and being in smokey bars screws my voice up... i used to come home at the end of a night out hardly able to talk anymore and that would stick about for days. in fact working in a bar several years ago was a major contributing factor to me eventually needing surgery on my vocal chords and afterwards my speech therapist tried to ban me for smokey pubs... impossible when you're 20-something and living in London.!
so yeah, smoke definitely played a huge part in that so i try avoid it now simply for health reasons. i personally don't mind smoke or smokers, never bothered me at all, but i'm still in favour of an all round ban here in the UK... which i think got passed the other day.

 

[Flash Gordon]

i don't smoke but I'm SMOKIN'

does that count?

 

[Niamh_Saoirse]

youre naughty and you know it

Yes, I need to be spanked!

 

[Niamh_Saoirse]

There is scientific proof that women who smoke are more sexually active than women who don't smoke. Women who smoke love to have sex, porno-style (doggy-style, hot oral, anal). Women who don't smoke are prudes who only have boring sex, if any.

Yeah, smoking automatically turns me into a porn star.

Watch you Aria GiovannI!