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Old 07-30-2009, 08:08 PM   #256
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Well, at least he didn't choose wine!


because that would be gay French.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:22 PM   #258
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I'd have liked to see Barack rocking some Natty. He'd be a hero.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:47 AM   #259
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I think this is a very good statement by Gates



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Gates: "Accident of Time and Place"

Henry Louis Gates, Jr., the Harvard Professor whose arrest touched off a national debate over race and police conduct, issued a statement regarding his sit down with Cambridge police Sergeant James Crowley and President Barack Obama. It was published on The Root, where Gates serves as the editor in chief.

Below is Gates' statement:

I would like to applaud President Obama for bringing Sergeant Crowley, me and our families together. I would also like to thank the President for welcoming my father, Henry Louis Gates, Sr., who for most of his life has been a Republican! My dad turned 96 this past June, and the fact that he worked two jobs every day is the reason that my brother, Dr. Paul Gates, and I were able to receive such splendid educations. I am honored that he chose to join me at the White House, along with my fiancée, my daughters, and my brother.

Sergeant Crowley and I, through an accident of time and place, have been cast together, inextricably, as characters – as metaphors, really – in a thousand narratives about race over which he and I have absolutely no control. Narratives about race are as old as the founding of this great Republic itself, but these new ones have unfolded precisely when Americans signaled to the world our country’s great progress by overcoming centuries of habit and fear, and electing an African American as President. It is incumbent upon Sergeant Crowley and me to utilize the great opportunity that fate has given us to foster greater sympathy among the American public for the daily perils of policing on the one hand, and for the genuine fears of racial profiling on the other hand.

Let me say that I thank God that live in a country in which police officers put their lives at risk to protect us every day, and, more than ever, I’ve come to understand and appreciate their daily sacrifices on our behalf. I’m also grateful that we live in a country where freedom of speech is a sacrosanct value and I hope that one day we can get to know each other better, as we began to do at the White House this afternoon over beers with President Obama.

Thank God we live in a country where speech is protected, a country which guarantees and defends my right to speak out when I believe my rights have been violated; a country that protects us from arrest when we do express our views, no matter how unpopular.


And thank God that we have a President who can rise above the fray, bridge age-old differences and transform events such as this into a moment in the evolution of our society’s attitudes about race and difference. President Obama is a man who understands tolerance and forgiveness, and our country is blessed to have such a leader.

The national conversation over the past week about my arrest has been rowdy, not to say tumultuous and unruly. But we’ve learned that we can have our differences without demonizing one another. There’s reason to hope that many people have emerged with greater sympathy for the daily perils of policing, on the one hand, and for the genuine fears about racial profiling, on the other hand.
Having spent my academic career trying to bridge differences and promote understanding among Americans, I can report that it is far more comfortable being the commentator than being commented upon. At this point, I am hopeful that we can all move on, and that this experience will prove an occasion for education, not recrimination. I know that Sergeant Crowley shares this goal. Both of us are eager to go back to work tomorrow. And it turns out that the President just might have a few other things on his plate as well.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:56 AM   #260
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I'd have liked to see Barack rocking some Natty. He'd be a hero.
how about some Colt 45?
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:59 AM   #261
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I have to say, I'm extremely disappointed in Obama.

He chose Bud Light.
choose a microbrew and relive the dijon mustard fiasco? why bother...
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I'd have liked to see Barack rocking some Natty. He'd be a hero.


if he wanted to flash his hipster credentials, he would have gone for the "authenticity" of PBR.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:58 PM   #263
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I think it's sad some appear intellectually dishonest here; while some may appear to have been brain washed into thinking only a certain way in regards to race. Sycophants tethered to one ideology only.

I found this article from Shelby Steele and he does a pretty good job, although he's pretty tacid in approaching Professor Gates conduct going to a 'jet lag' 'cranky old man' excuse, when it was about race w the professor. If it were a black officer in Gates home-Gates wouldn't have went nuts. It's that simple.

He calls out Obama for actually being the "stupid" one in the press conference- sorry Maycocksean.

In the end, Shelby did stick up for Officer Crowley here, and I'm sure it's quite possible he'd be blasted as an Uncle Tom in FYM though.

Run for cover Shel!



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From Emmitt Till to Skip Gates
Black victim, white oppressor. It’s a narrative we know well.



By SHELBY STEELE

If the Henry Louis Gates imbroglio makes anything clear it is that, in 2009, the mere implication of racial profiling in the arrest of a black professor on the nothing charge of disorderly conduct is sufficient to trigger a national (if not international) furor involving even the president of the United States. This incident shows us an America so chastened by its racist past—and so determined to overcome that past—that, at least for a moment, the national politics (health care, Iran, recession) stopped as the country combed over a six-minute encounter between a black academic and a white policeman.

I remember when another racial incident riveted the nation. It was the mid-1950s. I was just old enough to be sent to the barbershop on my own, and there one afternoon I noticed the men passing around a magazine. There were hushed whispers. “Don’t let him see it.” And then a booming voice, “Go ahead. He needs to see it!”

And suddenly, there before me was a photograph of the worst thing I had ever seen: the bludgeoned and mangled body of Emmitt Till, the 14-year-old black boy killed by whites in Mississippi for supposedly looking at or whistling at a white woman. He was a Chicago boy (like me) who had gone South to visit family and had simply walked into this terrible fate.

Emmitt Till had walked into a cultural narrative in which his role was already tragically written. It was a narrative designed to preserve white supremacy. So it gave power—the right to kill—to any white claiming to defend the honor of white women. Whether Emmitt Till whistled at or stared at the woman, or did nothing at all (there is much debate here), he somehow affronted white supremacy and annihilation was his punishment. His murderers were exonerated. Everyone in America knew this cultural narrative. Anyone could have told him not to whistle at that white woman.

We all know these cultural narratives, which is to say that we all know exactly where racial power abides in a given situation. When a white woman pointed her finger at a black man in the old South and cried “rape,” everyone knew a black man would die. But it wasn’t the innate innocence of white women that brought them this imperial power. It was the role their “innocence” played in the preservation of white supremacy and all the social, economic and political advantages that grew out of it.

And didn’t Mr. Gates—jet-lagged and vulnerable—know exactly where to find power when he was confronted in his home by Sgt. James Crowley? Didn’t he—a lifelong student of African-American culture—know precisely the cultural narrative that would serve him best? Moreover, don’t we all know this narrative? Black victim, white oppressor. Here he was, no longer young, slight of build, professorial in look, and still he was under suspicion of being a common burglar in his own home. Add to this the fact that he knew himself to be utterly innocent. Out of these simple facts a sense of racial victimization could have easily developed within him. Few blacks would not at least wonder at this point if they were not being racially profiled.

But this is not really the point. Many a Southern belle would have known she was being ogled by an uppity black man. She would have known that a cultural narrative—heated up by the nuclear taboos of sex and race—put the power of life and death at her disposal. But when would she have actually pulled the cultural trigger and set into motion those forces that would surely end in the annihilation of a black man? The great question in the Gates story is why he put himself so quickly into the cultural narrative, why he screamed “racial profiling” more quickly than a Southern belle might have once screamed “rape?”

The answer may be as simple as Mr. Gates’s fatigue after international travel—a physical depletion that may have darkened him into seeing a tormentor where there was only a protector. After all, here was a white policeman—crisp and confident—demanding ID of him inside his own home. There are moments when one wants one’s station in life—hard earned in Mr. Gates’s case—to be a buffer against indignity. Who is above this?

Yet—if reports are correct—Mr. Gates challenged the initial request for ID by asking if it came because he was a “black man in America.” Most blacks would have stopped at the word “black.” But Mr. Gates is an intellectual, a man ever aware of cultural and political resonances. “Black man in America” was a grab for historical resonance. If you are just Skip Gates (as he is known to friends), then you have only a citizen’s power. But if you are a “black man in America” confronted by a white cop in your own home, then you can frame the moment as an echo of history. Your humiliation at the hands of this unwitting white cop becomes a cruel historical redundancy.

The great drama at the core of American race relations is always the same: Can black Americans ever be truly equal—are they capable of achieving it and are others capable of accepting it? Mr. Gates put himself inside a cultural narrative that said blacks could achieve it but whites could never accept it. (His 50 honorary degrees did not save him from having to produce ID in his own house.) This narrative sees whites as incorrigible bigots and supremacists. It was once true and it gave blacks great moral power. But it doesn’t work so well in modern America, as the Gates affair makes clear. Handcuffs were Sgt. Crowley’s answer to Mr. Gates’s moral muscling.

But then Skip Gates was tired. What was President Barack Obama’s excuse? Why did he step into the same cultural narrative that Mr. Gates had tried and failed with?

Where race is concerned, I sometimes think of the president as the Peter Sellers character in “Dr. Strangelove.” Sellers plays a closet Nazi whose left arm—quite involuntarily—keeps springing up into the Heil Hitler salute. We see him in his wheelchair, his right arm—the good and decent arm—struggling to keep the Nazi arm down so that no one will know the truth of his inner life. These wrestling matches between the good and bad arms were hysterically funny.

When I saw Mr. Obama—with every escape route available to him—wade right into the Gates affair at the end of his health-care news conference, I knew that his demon arm had momentarily won out over his good arm. It broke completely free—into full sal 57a ute—in the “acted stupidly” comment that he made in reference to the Cambridge police’s handling of the matter. Here was the implication that whites were such clumsy and incorrigible racists that even the most highly achieved blacks lived in constant peril of racial humiliation. This was a cultural narrative, a politics, and in the end it was a bigotry. It let white Americans see a president who doubted them.

Mr. Obama’s “post-racialism” was a promise to operate outside of tired cultural narratives. But he has a demon arm of reflexive racialism—identity politics, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and now Skip Gates. You can only put a demon like this to death by finding out what you really believe. We should hold Mr. Obama to his post-racialism, and he should get to know himself well enough to tell us what he really means by it. As for the odd triad of Messrs. Gates, Crowley and Obama, only Mr. Crowley seems to have functioned outside his cultural narrative.
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That's an interesting narrative.

Surely a more interesting one, from a libertarian and indeed conservative point of view, is why the citizens accept agents of state having such intrusive powers as to be legally capable of arresting a citizen attempting to access his own home for the 'crime' of giving 'backchat' to the person whose damn wages he pays? Why is the controversy not about this, instead of the tedious racial wars. Maybe that's one to chew over, for the statists all round, be they on the left or right.
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In America police officers take an oath to protect and serve. While serving, ie-completing a 5 minute investigation, it is expected for the person being investigated to be at least cooperative-that's all Gates needed to do.


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In America police officers take an oath to protect and serve. While serving, ie-completing a 5 minute investigation, it is expected for the person being investigated to be at least cooperative-that's all Gates needed to do.


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Serving whom? All arms of state, including police forces, should serve at the will of the citizenry, end of story.

Is it acceptable for you for agents of state to arrest private citizens attempting to access their private dwelling places?
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No, he wasn't arrested for breaking into his home, only investigated for that.

He was arrested for being a jerk-and that's ok.

I'm ok if they investigate citizens in England for breaking into their own homes, however I think as a citizen you should cooperate with the Bobby to complete his investigation.


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He was arrested for being a jerk.
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Now we are approaching the kernel of the matter. I think you just proved my point.
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England is approaching a police state in my opinion, however I do not live there. Ireland is probably not quite so bad, yet.
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He was arrested for being a jerk-and that's ok.
According to Massachusetts law, no it isn't.
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