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Old 01-12-2011, 09:49 PM   #406
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14,000 people on a university campus who needed release and inspiration and wanted to show support. Whaddayagonnado.

My tissue count is 3. Beautiful job.

Guess I haven't paid him much attention lately...has he ever aged.
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:53 PM   #407
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has he ever aged.
My mother said the same exact thing...
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:03 PM   #408
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I hope the crowd behavior doesn't become a big issue. I don't think it should be. Let's focus on the President's words, which were strong, poetic, and deeply heartfelt.

If I see a rain puddle tonight, I'm jumping the fuck into it.
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She's also apparently decided she's Jewish. Or just wanted to throw an anti-Semitic slur out there. Adding insult to injury on a few levels.
Sarah Palin is so painfully stupid. That's my reasoning with respect to her use of blood libel.

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"This is of course a particularly heinous term for American Jews, given that the repeated fiction of blood libels are directly responsible for the murder of so many Jews across centuries -- and given that blood libels are so directly intertwined with deeply ingrained anti-Semitism around the globe, even today", NJDC President and CEO David A. Harris said in a statement.

"Perhaps Sarah Palin honestly does not know what a blood libel is, or does not know of their horrific history; that is perhaps the most charitable explanation we can arrive at in explaining her rhetoric today," the statement said.
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I missed Obama's speech. Waiting for it to pop up online.
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Old 01-12-2011, 10:25 PM   #412
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My younger daughter who is 5 loves to jump in rain puddles. Made me crazy. Now I'm just going to get out of her way.
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I missed his speech, too, as I had to work this evening. I'll definitely make sure to catch it when it gets posted online, though, absolutely.

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Perhaps the easiest way to illegally obtain a gun is to steal one from a private home. This happens all of the time. Many people who own guns are still incredibly lax about storing them safely and securely
Yep. Awful lot of school shooters got their guns from their family's homes.

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The point being, it is not hard to get a gun legally or illegally. But, the sticky part of the equation is the enforcement. We need so much more funding for enforcement of many things. I doubt (especially in this climate) that governments (state or federal) will allocate more money for enforcing gun laws, let alone enacting more gun laws.
Yeah, that's the most frustrating thing. We need this sort of funding to help keep this crap from happening again, but nobody wants to pony up the money to do so, and they're the ones who are usually complaining after a tragedy like this: "Why didn't anyone stop this person?" Well...

I am incredibly disturbed at how many gun-related magazines I find myself shelving at work some days. One of them almost has a freakin' survivalist mentality to it, one of the headlines on the cover advertised an article about how to survive a terrorist attack. Big, bold, scary letters, just to make sure you didn't miss that story.

I also saw a magazine tonight, one called "Town Hall", which prides itself on "fresh, conservative, intelligent reporting". Its main headline for the week's issue? "The 50 Most Dangerous Liberals in America and Their Secret Agendas Exposed". This is the kind of BS that needs to stop (and I think you'll all be able to tell what I'd have to say about Sarah Palin's latest little rambling, I'll just sum it up with this: ).

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I don't agree with him in all areas but in enough areas to see how well he frames how liberals think and I feel it's more accurate than most shows or programs.
I can guarantee you Rush's stereotypes of liberals are way off base.

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The Spirit Level is popular with leftists and is considered influential. If it's not for you, oh well....
I had absolutely zero knowledge of this Spirit Level thing until this thread. Seriously. Never even heard about it before now.

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At an event in Lake Havasu City, Ariz., Miller said someone called out, "There's Anthony, get a rope."
Keep it classy, people .

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Old 01-12-2011, 11:59 PM   #414
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actually, i'd say just this simple purpose.

i'm paraphrasing conservative David Frum, but i believe he wrote: "we all thought that Fox News worked or us; in truth, we all work for Fox News."
i have heard people say in radio interviews is that Rupert Murdock is not that political as some, but all about the bazillions.

But then again making millions and bazillions with unfetted regard as to a whole slew of health & saftey issuesof human beiongs, and the environment tends to be the purview of Republicans, Conservatives, & Libertarians....
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I believe we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved lives here – they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.

That’s what I believe, in part because that’s what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. Imagine: here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that someday she too might play a part in shaping her nation’s future. She had been elected to her student council; she saw public service as something exciting, something hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.

I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it. All of us – we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations.

Christina was given to us on September 11th, 2001, one of 50 babies born that day to be pictured in a book called “Faces of Hope.” On either side of her photo in that book were simple wishes for a child’s life. “I hope you help those in need,” read one. “I hope you know all of the words to the National Anthem and sing it with your hand over your heart. I hope you jump in rain puddles.”

If there are rain puddles in heaven, Christina is jumping in them today. And here on Earth, we place our hands over our hearts, and commit ourselves as Americans to forging a country that is forever worthy of her gentle, happy spirit.

May God bless and keep those we’ve lost in restful and eternal peace. May He love and watch over the survivors. And may He bless the United States of America.

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If I see a rain puddle tonight, I'm jumping the fuck into it.
Careful. It's cold outside. You might be jumping into some black ice.

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Good lord, I want to cry just reading that.

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That’s what I believe, in part because that’s what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. Imagine: here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that someday she too might play a part in shaping her nation’s future. She had been elected to her student council; she saw public service as something exciting, something hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.
This snippet seriously has to be one of the most beautifully touching things I've ever read in my life.

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Okay, here is what I believe:

This shooting was not politically driven. The only thing I see that was political from this was that the shooter knew about Gifford. The guy just went insane for some reason and decided to cause chaos, which is really sad. I didn't like how the liberal media was quick to conclusions, saying that it was Sarah Palin or The Tea Party who encouraged violence like that (and this is coming from a guy who doesn't like either of those people). But then I think that the conservative media was quick to labeling exactly who this guy was, a atheist who sat in his bedroom all day smoking weed and reading another chapter of The Communist Manifesto and blamed MSNBC and other liberals for doing and saying things that actually the conservatives have done a little bit more of. This violent rhetoric needs to stop people. It's already bad enough that Democrats and Republicans can't make any compromises on anything these days in Washington DC. As for gun laws, I heard that they are making a new law that suggests weapons cannot be within 100 ft of a political leader, which is actually a stupid idea because not everyone knows who is working for the government. And also, let this massacre be a wake up call to Arizona on their stance on gun posession. And I have to agree with Jon Stewart when he said that you just can't figure out where the mental will go to let out their anger on society, no matter how much we want to think we can catch it early on. They just seem to pop up when we least expect it and it's unfortunate.We'll just have to see how this plays out in the future
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More Civil? Rush Lies About Sheriff Dupnik 1/11/11

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RUSH: On the day of the shooting we know that officers stopped the suspect. They let him go, but they stopped him. He slipped through the sheriff's hands. It's kind of rhetorical to ask if the sheriff, Mr. Dupnik, will apologize. But Dupnik, the sheriff, knew that Jared Loughner had written "Die, bitch" on that note to her in 2007. He knew that on the day of the shooting, which calls into great question the motives of Sheriff Dupnik here in the way he has conducted himself since the shooting and since he decided to go public on television with his idle speculation as to the reason for the shooting. From a layman's perch here, it appears that Sheriff Dupnik has been acting with malice as he runs around and blames Sarah Palin and blames me and others who do what I do for this sordid incident.

Will Obama say tonight in his remarks in Tucson that Dupnik acted stupidly as he did in describing the actions of the cop in Cambridge? Will Obama castigate Dupnik? No, this is not gonna happen. He called Dupnik and thanked him yesterday. He called Sheriff Dupnik, the president did, to thank him for his great work in keeping Pima County safe and following up in his efforts to find out what happened here. So, no, Obama will not castigate Dupnik and the rest of the media and the Democrats for jumping to conclusions. He will not insist on holding a beer summit with Dupnik. Why was that "Die, bitch" note covered up? I mean it's now how many days? Saturday, Sunday, Monday -- four days. Four days and we are still learning about all of this. Why did the media bury that information?
The officer's who stopped Loughner were Fish, Game & Wildlife officers stopping him for running a red light . He was polite etc.They felt no reason to detain him.

The Loughner note was found AFTER the shootings, when the Sheriff was at Loughner's parents' home looking in a safe.



Let his LIE speak for itself.
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