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Old 12-27-2008, 08:40 PM   #1
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The Year Man-Made Global Warming Disproved

2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved
Looking back over my columns of the past 12 months, one of their major themes was neatly encapsulated by two recent items from The Daily Telegraph.

By Christopher Booker
Last Updated: 5:51PM GMT 27 Dec 2008


The first, on May 21, headed "Climate change threat to Alpine ski resorts" , reported that the entire Alpine "winter sports industry" could soon "grind to a halt for lack of snow". The second, on December 19, headed "The Alps have best snow conditions in a generation" , reported that this winter's Alpine snowfalls "look set to beat all records by New Year's Day".

Easily one of the most important stories of 2008 has been all the evidence suggesting that this may be looked back on as the year when there was a turning point in the great worldwide panic over man-made global warming. Just when politicians in Europe and America have been adopting the most costly and damaging measures politicians have ever proposed, to combat this supposed menace, the tide has turned in three significant respects.

First, all over the world, temperatures have been dropping in a way wholly unpredicted by all those computer models which have been used as the main drivers of the scare. Last winter, as temperatures plummeted, many parts of the world had snowfalls on a scale not seen for decades. This winter, with the whole of Canada and half the US under snow, looks likely to be even worse. After several years flatlining, global temperatures have dropped sharply enough to cancel out much of their net rise in the 20th century.

Ever shriller and more frantic has become the insistence of the warmists, cheered on by their army of media groupies such as the BBC, that the last 10 years have been the "hottest in history" and that the North Pole would soon be ice-free – as the poles remain defiantly icebound and those polar bears fail to drown. All those hysterical predictions that we are seeing more droughts and hurricanes than ever before have infuriatingly failed to materialise.

Even the more cautious scientific acolytes of the official orthodoxy now admit that, thanks to "natural factors" such as ocean currents, temperatures have failed to rise as predicted (although they plaintively assure us that this cooling effect is merely "masking the underlying warming trend", and that the temperature rise will resume worse than ever by the middle of the next decade).

Secondly, 2008 was the year when any pretence that there was a "scientific consensus" in favour of man-made global warming collapsed. At long last, as in the Manhattan Declaration last March, hundreds of proper scientists, including many of the world's most eminent climate experts, have been rallying to pour scorn on that "consensus" which was only a politically engineered artefact, based on ever more blatantly manipulated data and computer models programmed to produce no more than convenient fictions.

Thirdly, as banks collapsed and the global economy plunged into its worst recession for decades, harsh reality at last began to break in on those self-deluding dreams which have for so long possessed almost every politician in the western world. As we saw in this month's Poznan conference, when 10,000 politicians, officials and "environmentalists" gathered to plan next year's "son of Kyoto" treaty in Copenhagen, panicking politicians are waking up to the fact that the world can no longer afford all those quixotic schemes for "combating climate change" with which they were so happy to indulge themselves in more comfortable times.

Suddenly it has become rather less appealing that we should divert trillions of dollars, pounds and euros into the fantasy that we could reduce emissions of carbon dioxide by 80 per cent. All those grandiose projects for "emissions trading", "carbon capture", building tens of thousands more useless wind turbines, switching vast areas of farmland from producing food to "biofuels", are being exposed as no more than enormously damaging and futile gestures, costing astronomic sums we no longer possess.

As 2009 dawns, it is time we in Britain faced up to the genuine crisis now fast approaching from the fact that – unless we get on very soon with building enough proper power stations to fill our looming "energy gap" - within a few years our lights will go out and what remains of our economy will judder to a halt. After years of infantile displacement activity, it is high time our politicians – along with those of the EU and President Obama's US – were brought back with a mighty jolt into contact with the real world.

I must end this year by again paying tribute to my readers for the wonderful generosity with which they came to the aid of two causes. First their donations made it possible for the latest "metric martyr", the east London market trader Janet Devers, to fight Hackney council's vindictive decision to prosecute her on 13 criminal charges, ranging from selling in pounds and ounces to selling produce "by the bowl" (to avoid using weights her customers dislike and don't understand). The embarrassment caused by this historic battle has thrown the forced metrication policy of both our governments, in London and Brussels, into total disarray.

Since Hackney backed out of allowing four criminal charges against Janet to go before a jury next month, all that remains is for her to win her appeal in February against eight convictions which now look quite absurd (including those for selling veg by the bowl, as thousands of other London market traders do every day). The final goal, as Neil Herron of the Metric Martyrs Defence Fund insists, must then be a pardon for the late Steve Thoburn and the four other original "martyrs" who were found guilty in 2002 – after a legal battle also made possible by this column's readers – of breaking laws so ridiculous that the EU Commission has even denied they existed (but which are still on the statute book).

Readers were equally generous this year in rushing to the aid of Sue Smith, whose son was killed in a Snatch Land Rover in Iraq in 2005. Their contributions made it possible for her to carry on with the High Court action she has brought against the Ministry of Defence, with the sole aim of calling it to account for needlessly risking soldiers' lives by sending them into battle in hopelessly inappropriate vehicles. Thanks not least to Mrs Smith's determined fight, the Snatch Land Rover scandal, first reported here in 2006, has at last become a national cause celebre.

May I finally thank all those readers who have written to me in 2008 – so many that, as usual, it has not been possible to answer all their messages. But their support and information has been hugely appreciated. May I wish them and all of you a happy (if globally not too warm) New Year.

2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved - Telegraph
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:19 PM   #2
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Yeah, two cold winters obviously means that two hundred years of rising temperatures is bullshit.

I really thought you were smarter than this.

It stuns me that even among those who say that global warming doesn't exist, that they don't at least agree that it would be a good thing to stop belching un-natural particles into the upper atmosphere even for the sake of having clean air? You don't think it would be beneficial for your children and grandchildren to not have to breathe dirty air, no matter whether it's heating the planet up or not?

Some people just can't see past dollar signs and the present, I guess.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:21 PM   #3
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CO2 doesn't make air dirty, if we had more particulate matter in the air we might even be able to offset global warming.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:25 PM   #4
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CO2 doesn't make air dirty, if we had more particulate matter in the air we might even be able to offset global warming.
I know that, I never mentioned CO2. That's natural. I've been spewing carbon dioxide into the air all my life. What really worries me is the shit that spews out of steel and paper mills, paint factories, etc. Coke and slag byproducts, and carbon monoxide are not natural in large quanities in the atmosphere and cannot possibly be beneficial to breathe in.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:17 PM   #5
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I'll admit, I'm too lazy to read the entire article.

But, while I'm no expert, having taken a course on global climate, and having followed it on personal interest, one of the important facts to note is that "global warming" is a bit of a misnomer. Yes, global temperatures are rising, but the effects of this are not as simple as, oh every winter and summer will be warmer everywhere. As far as I know, most professionals in the field prefer to refer to it as "climate change".
Rising temperatures changes global weather patterns, it changes amounts and patterns of precipitation, etc. And I think the strange weather places all over the world have been having in recent years would support that there has been a change in climate.
Thus, having some very cold winters does not disprove the idea of "global warming" aka climate change. If anything, the excessive snow storms we've been seeing this year would seem abnormal.

And is it man-made? Most of the research I've examined would suggest that it is. At the very least there are a number of correlations which strongly suggest this to be the case.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:09 PM   #6
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[QUOTE=~BrightestStar~;5697989]I'll admit, I'm too lazy to read the entire article.


Why not take a few minutes to read the article?
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I don't believe that a couple of cool years disprove the heating of the earth. There has been a heating trend for years, and one or two that differ from the current "norm" mean nothing. Make this thread when we've started having below average temperatures for decades.

What I do believe is that our doom is not as imminent as Al Gore originally claimed it was. I found the idea that we were all going to die in 10 years if we didn't agree to his terms to be absurd way back when, and I find it almost laughable now. However, I think his urgency changed our country's priorities, which is ultimately a good thing. Recycling, conserving energy, and finding sources of more natural, renewable energy are great ideas.
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It is by Christopher Booker. He is an amusing writer, but he ain't no scientist, and has never claimed to be.

It is very important to have nay-sayers and dissenters in a democratic society, but Christopher Booker's viewpoint on the issue is ultimately no more scientifically valid than some guy you met in the pub, or the mad speaker in Hyde Park. Booker just happens to have a public platform, that's all.
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This is a pretty silly article
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Why not take a few minutes to read the article?
Because it's incorrect, most likely.

I read the first paragraph, and, seeing that snowfall was being used as an argument, stopped reading it.
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I've read enough on both sides of this argument to be able to decide, from the title of this thread, that the article doesn't warrant reading.

Unless some new, dramatic evidence has come to light... and as I haven't seen any such thing mentioned on the news or in the papers, I doubt this article tells me anything I don't already know and don't believe.

I don't see why people go out of their way to disprove global warming. I mean... it's not like cutting back on carbon emissions or toxic waste is a bad thing, is it?
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This winter, with the whole of Canada and half the US under snow, looks likely to be even worse.
All of Canada under snow in the dead of winter? NO FUCKING WAY!!!

It was 13 degrees in Toronto yesterday. Based on this guy's anecdotal "evidence", I guess global warming is back.
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What a crap article... Why don't people take a little time to understand the basics? A cold winter doesn't dissprove or prove anything...
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Why not take a few minutes to read the article?
Why?

Essentially....

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Because it's incorrect, most likely.

I read the first paragraph, and, seeing that snowfall was being used as an argument, stopped reading it.
Although I think I made it through 2.5 paragraphs before I dropped it.

There are so many interesting things to read, I tend to skim to determine value and if it's not worth my time I move on.

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I don't see why people go out of their way to disprove global warming. I mean... it's not like cutting back on carbon emissions or toxic waste is a bad thing, is it?
Well, it can cut into your profits, and could make life require a little more effort, so yeah, it's a very very bad thing.
We should just maintain the status quo.


Did anyone hear about some town in Tennessee that's been covered in toxic fly ash or something?
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:11 PM   #15
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Well its a complex issue really. Yes, spewing CO2 and other greenhouse gases into the air will raise global temperatures in the short term, and has been doing so for most of the last 100 years. But where do things go from here? Noone really knows for sure.

One interesting aspect of global climate is that ice ages have always been preceded by a spike in global greenhouse gas levels and temperature. It's a little different because theyve always been natural spikes in the past obviously. But historically it does seem like the earth responds to increased greenhouse gases with an ice age, rather than a global meltdown and inferno. And Its a fact that we're due for another ice age to begin right about now, give or take a few thousand years. As a result of man-made greenhouse gases, some scientists think we may be accelerating the onset of the new ice age.

I dont like greenhouse gases anymore than anyone else. I'd love to see us all driving green cars, and solar panels on every house. At the very least as a way of achieving some socal equality.

If an ice age is starting, I hope we get cleaner forms of energy established before evidence shows up. I do hate dirty fuels with a passion.

But it will be interesting to see how things develop from here. From what Ive read I tend to believe the next ice age is beginning right now. It's funny, for the last couple years I've actually been telling my family to buy some heavier coats and blankets cause the next ice age will be starting any day

Who knows. All I know is, I like pie!
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