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Old 08-26-2009, 09:33 AM   #16
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"To whom much is given, much is expected." The Kennedys lived by these words.
While I also have never bought into the Kennedy mystique, I've always found their overall dedication to public service and the underpriveledged worthy of respect despite the controversies.

For better and offen for worse, they do lead by example.
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Interesting watching the news, hearing a bunch of stuff I didn't know about him. I obviously despised the man politically, but he did seem like a nice enough guy, and you can't deny his impact on things.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:39 AM   #18
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We lost a great man, who cared for the commom person. May you Rest in Peace Teddy.
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Old 08-26-2009, 10:00 AM   #19
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RIP Sen Kennedy

He accomplished many things and helped many people. I've grown up my whole life hearing about the Kennedys from my mother and from the media and from visiting the library so many times. I knew he was in bad shape when he couldn't go to Eunice's funeral (such an accomplished person in her own right, like her father said if she had been born a man she could have been President) but it still seems like a jolt. Also when the rumored visit from the President while he's in MV wasn't going to happen, I knew then too. Sen Kennedy had more seizures three days ago.

It is the end of an era, and for me that makes it so sad too- and so strange. Some of the next Kennedy generation has accomplished some good things too, but it will never be the same.
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I guess he will get to see Mary Jo again.
Don't think so. Mary Jo went to Heaven.

Sorry but if anyone other than a Kennedy- or some big star like OJ- was involved in that incident, they'd either have gone to jail, or at the very least had their political career ruined. Gary Condit's life was ruined for his very involvement with Cassandra Levy, and he didn't even really kill her. Yet Ted goes on to decades of popularity in the Senate. It's not really fair. I don't think Ted intentionally killed Mary Jo, but I do believe his neglectful behavior in the crucial moments that followed show he didn't care if she died, and that is own rep was more important to him than her life.

I am sorry that the news is stalking the family. That's heartless.
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5,4,3,2,1

RIP Saddam-9 pages

Maybe like with that and the Reagan thread and who knows how many others..there could be a separate thread.

Couldn't have an RIP thread for dead soldiers either, I remember that one too
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RIP Saddam-9 pages

Maybe like with that and the Reagan thread and who knows how many others..there could be a separate thread.

Couldn't have an RIP thread for dead soldiers either, I remember that one too
I completely agree. There should be an RIP thread and a legacy thread which may contain both opinions of him.
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I am sorry that the news is stalking the family. That's heartless.
I'm sorry that people feel the need to comment negatively in what is clearly a rest in peace thread of a person who has recently died, but that's just me.
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Every working class person in this great nation owes a debt of gratitude to Senator Edward Kennedy. Agree with him or not, so many things we take for granted were accomplished because of this great man. An example of the many quiet things he did w/out publicity..on his way home from CHEMO treatments recently, he would stop at Iraqi veterans homes to visit and say thank you. RIP We owe you for your great serviceto our nation. Let's hope the health care reform bill is passed in his honor..
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I'm sorry that people feel the need to comment negatively in what is clearly a rest in peace thread of a person who has recently died, but that's just me.

I wouldn't have done it if others hadn't brought it up first. There are varying opinions on him, and just as was mentioned on the others who died and got attacked, there should be two threads. Please move my post to the non-RIP thread, and I will respect the RIP one in peace. I'm sure all others will do the same.
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(CNN) -- A sampling of reactions to the death of Sen. Edward Kennedy, who died Tuesday night at age 77:

U.S. President Barack Obama: For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts.

I valued his wise counsel in the Senate, where, regardless of the swirl of events, he always had time for a new colleague. I cherished his confidence and momentous support in my race for the Presidency. And even as he waged a valiant struggle with a mortal illness, I've profited as President from his encouragement and wisdom.

An important chapter in our history has come to an end. Our country has lost a great leader, who picked up the torch of his fallen brothers and became the greatest United States Senator of our time.

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick: "One of the Commonwealth's brightest lights went out last night. Ted Kennedy was a compassionate, effective, visionary statesman, family man and friend. Diane and I were blessed by his company, support and many kindnesses, and miss him profoundly. We pray for comfort for his beloved wife and partner Vicki and his entire family."

Harry Reid, Senate majority leader: "Because of Ted Kennedy, more young children could afford to become healthy. More young adults could afford to become students. More of our oldest citizens and our poorest citizens could get the care they need to live longer, fuller lives. More minorities, women and immigrants could realize the rights our founding documents promised them. And more Americans could be proud of their country. Ted Kennedy's dream was the one for which the founding fathers fought and for which his brothers sought to realize. The liberal lion's mighty roar may now fall silent, but his dream shall never die."

Nancy Reagan, former first lady: "Given our political differences, people are sometimes surprised by how close Ronnie and I have been to the Kennedy family. In recent years, Ted and I found our common ground in stem cell research, and I considered him an ally and a dear friend. I will miss him."

Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah): "Today America lost a great elder statesman, a committed public servant, and leader of the Senate. And today I lost a treasured friend. "Ted Kennedy was an iconic, larger than life United States senator whose influence cannot be overstated. Many have come before, and many will come after, but Ted Kennedy's name will always be remembered as someone who lived and breathed the United States Senate and the work completed within its chamber."

Nancy Pelosi, House Speaker: "Today, with the passing of Senator Edward M. Kennedy, the American people have lost a great patriot, and the Kennedy family has lost a beloved patriarch. Over a lifetime of leadership, Senator Kennedy's statesmanship and political prowess produced a wealth of accomplishment that has improved opportunity for every American."

"Senator Kennedy had a grand vision for America, and an unparalleled ability to effect change. Rooted in his deep patriotism, his abiding faith, and his deep concern for the least among us, no one has done more than Senator Kennedy to educate our children, care for our seniors, and ensure equality for all Americans."

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (married to Kennedy's niece Maria Shriver): "Maria and I are immensely saddened by the passing of Uncle Teddy. He was known to the world as the "Lion of the Senate," a champion of social justice, and a political icon. Most importantly, he was the rock of our family: a loving husband, father, brother and uncle. He was a man of great faith and character."

Former President George H.W. Bush: Barbara and I were deeply saddened to learn Ted Kennedy lost his valiant battle with cancer. While we didn't see eye-to-eye on many political issues through the years, I always respected his steadfast public service  so much so, in fact, that I invited him to my library in 2003 to receive the Bush Award for Excellence in Public Service. Ted Kennedy was a seminal figure in the United States Senate  a leader who answered the call to duty for some 47 years, and whose death closes a remarkable chapter in that body's history.

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair: Senator Kennedy was a figure who inspired admiration, respect and devotion, not just in America but around the world.

He was a true public servant committed to the values of fairness, justice and opportunity. "I saw his focus and determination first hand in Northern Ireland where his passionate commitment was matched with a practical understanding of what needed to be done to bring about peace and to sustain it. I was delighted he could join us in Belfast the day devolved government was restored.

My thoughts and prayers today are with all his family and friends as they reflect on the loss of a great and good man.

Gordon Brown, British prime minister: "Senator Edward Kennedy will be mourned not just in America, but in every continent. He is admired around the world as the senator of senators. He led the world in championing children's education and health care, and believed that every single child should have the chance to realise their potential to the full. Even facing illness and death, he never stopped fighting for the causes which were his life's work."

Brian Cowen, Irish prime minister: "In this country, Ted Kennedy will be remembered with great affection and enduring respect. Throughout his long and distinguished career in politics, Ted Kennedy has been a great friend of Ireland. He has used his considerable influence in the world's most powerful parliament for the betterment of this island."
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Certainly hard to imagine a political landscape without him.

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Couldn't have an RIP thread for dead soldiers either, I remember that one too
That is not correct. I really don't know why you're trying to raise that old chestnut again.
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I find it very telling about those that use the day of or the aftermath of one's death to judge that person, especially about things that aren't 100% clear... it disturbs me even more when that person is a supposed person of faith.

Very similar to the passing of Michael Jackson, I just don't get it...
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I've said it before

a religious mind set - often leads to bad thinking


if people want to avoid 'bad-thinking' perhaps people should apply 'religious mind-sets' or 'person of faith mind sets' to the religious community where people choose to be members and not the broader public marketplace
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