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Old 12-31-2009, 03:06 AM   #91
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Once again Cheney nails it.
If you honestly believe this, then you're honestly a lost cause...
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Old 12-31-2009, 07:32 AM   #92
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They call themselves jihadists. Works for me.
so what are we supposed to bomb exactly, jihadistan? it sounds to me like this whole thing was the work of one complete idiot. not exactly worth starting a war over, especially when we've not cleaned up the playpens in afghanistan and iraq yet.
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Don't forget posh London neighborhoods and Texas military bases.
even better for fear mongering. they've everywhere!
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not exactly worth starting a war over, especially when we've not cleaned up the playpens in afghanistan and iraq yet.
A few more (well-publicized this time) drone attacks over Yemen ought to clean up inept retaliation attempts. Couldn't possibly escalate.

It's been almost a week, what's taking so long???
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Old 12-31-2009, 09:50 AM   #95
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Once again, Cheney proves himself a blowhard lackey for the GOP.

Someone lit his balls on fire on an airplane? WHY AREN'T WE BOMBING SHIT YET???
And who are we suppose to be bombing? Innocent people who had nothing to do with this? We can't just invade an entire country.
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:13 AM   #96
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Considering that these kinds of threats aren't going away, perhaps it's time to take some tips from a country that's already perfected high security air travel? Compared to the West, it looks like Israel has got it down to a fine art.

The 'Israelification' of airports: High security, little bother - thestar.com

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While North America's airports groan under the weight of another sea-change in security protocols, one word keeps popping out of the mouths of experts: Israelification.

That is, how can we make our airports more like Israel's, which deal with far greater terror threat with far less inconvenience.

"It is mindboggling for us Israelis to look at what happens in North America, because we went through this 50 years ago," said Rafi Sela, the president of AR Challenges, a global transportation security consultancy. He's worked with the RCMP, the U.S. Navy Seals and airports around the world.

"Israelis, unlike Canadians and Americans, don't take s--- from anybody. When the security agency in Israel (the ISA) started to tighten security and we had to wait in line for — not for hours — but 30 or 40 minutes, all hell broke loose here. We said, 'We're not going to do this. You're going to find a way that will take care of security without touching the efficiency of the airport."

That, in a nutshell is "Israelification" - a system that protects life and limb without annoying you to death.
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I don't know if that link is going to work for everyone. I was invited to join a facebook group called "Arabs Are The Bomb".
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They call themselves jihadists. Works for me.

Don't forget posh London neighborhoods and Texas military bases.


It's also wildly politically incorrect which is presumably why some pretend so hard that the threat doesn't exist.

So what should the President do? What would a President McCain or Palin be doing in the wake of this incident?

Also, could you provide a link to an article where Obama indicates that the threat from jihadists doesn't exist? Since he's pretending so hard, it shouldn't be hard to find.
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Considering that these kinds of threats aren't going away, perhaps it's time to take some tips from a country that's already perfected high security air travel? Compared to the West, it looks like Israel has got it down to a fine art.
They discussed that after 9/11 also. El Al has around 40 flights a day vs. around 35,000 in the US. They should borrow some of the tips that require less manpower though (many obvious ones).
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Old 12-31-2009, 11:26 AM   #100
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That, in a nutshell is "Israelification" - a system that protects life and limb without annoying you to death.
Yeah, right.

Have any of you flown on El Al? They routinely take way longer to screen, they are known for emptying planes and re-loading them, etc. Most reputable travel agents will tell you to add an hour or two to your arrival at the airport when flying with them due to this reason.

I think they are excellent at what they do, but the idea that we'd put up with their screening methods because they're not a hassle is simply absurd.
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Yeah, right.

Have any of you flown on El Al? They routinely take way longer to screen, they are known for emptying planes and re-loading them, etc. Most reputable travel agents will tell you to add an hour or two to your arrival at the airport when flying with them due to this reason.

I think they are excellent at what they do, but the idea that we'd put up with their screening methods because they're not a hassle is simply absurd.
Admittedly, I'm automatically suspicious of anything posed as a "perfect solution" in the media, so it's good to have added perspective here. Thanks.
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plus good luck even getting on the plane if you've had your passport stamped in dubai, for example. but i digress.
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Old 12-31-2009, 12:11 PM   #103
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it sounds to me like this whole thing was the work of one complete idiot.
Then your instinct is the same as the president's who called him an "isolated extremist" well after the evidence said otherwise. And therein lies the problem.
An isolated extremist would be read his rights and tried as a criminal. If you thought we were at war and this was a failed terrorist attack by a foreign enemy combatant or saboteur you would interrogate him to find out who trained, equipped and sent him and try him in a military court.
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Should we be sending those drones over to the Amsterdam airport? It sounds like there were some major security cock-ups there.
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On my recent flight to Pandora, all the passengers were placed in a drug induced coma for the duration of the flight. I would feel much better if all flights operated like this.
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