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Old 12-27-2009, 07:11 PM   #16
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I do not have words for how much I now dread flying. It's so thoroughly unenjoyable all around. And I'm a good flyer, I'll read or listen to my Ipod all day and be just fine. I just feel a lot less than an adult, or a human, maybe, when I'm in an airport or plane.

My current policy is anything I can drive to within 10 hours, I drive to, screw the flight. If we're talking about needing maybe a 2nd day of driving to get there, or if I'm crossing an ocean, then I'll fly. Begrudgingly.
Pretty much sums up how I feel about it. I'm a good flyer, too. I feel even weirdly comfortable roaming around airports. I'm just glad I've been to most of the places I really wanted to see overseas because suddenly going back to them isn't at all appealing.

Time to start saving again for a new foreign car.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:36 PM   #17
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I may drive to Denver in June.
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:45 PM   #18
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If we had high-speed rail like in Europe, I'd avoid flying as much as possible. It's so thoroughly unpleasant these days.

This new stay-and-pee-in-your-seat in the last 60 minutes of flight rule can't possibly last long. Just wait till kids start peeing all over the place.

And really if this is in response to the Nigerian man then isn't the most logical solution to make us all take our pants off during the last 60 minutes?
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:36 PM   #19
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Can I still read in the last hour of a flight, as long as the book isn't in my lap? If I'm holding it above lap level, is that acceptable? Can I maybe just glue it to the seatback in front of me?
Will they allow glue onto the aircraft?
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:40 PM   #20
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Good point. I'll go with used chewing gum instead.

Although I suppose at some point, some asshole terrorist who thinks he's McGuyver will construct a bomb out of chewing gum, a paperclip and a Dan Brown paperback, and then we won't get to have gum, either - we'll just have to sit there and take the pain of the pressurization.
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I still don't understand why these restrictions only apply during the last 60-90 minutes of flight time. What about the other 6+ hours or so?

I understand the need for enhanced security, however adding these latest measures just makes the thought of flying completely unbearable. I can easily see where the only people deterred from flying will be regular travelers. Terrorists won't care, they'll simply adjust their plans accordingly.
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:51 PM   #22
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And really if this is in response to the Nigerian man then isn't the most logical solution to make us all take our pants off during the last 60 minutes?
Stop projecting your deepest wishes onto this discussion, please.
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You know. I just spent some time without pants on. Several days in fact. It's not all it's cracked up to be.
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So basically if you're only flying within the U.S. none of these rules apply? Because there could never possibly be a terrorist in the U.S.?
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I feel for the poor guy today who caused the "disturbance" on the flight from Amsterdam. ABC News informed me he had food poisoning and couldn't/wouldn't come out of the bathroom, which caused today's kerfuffle.

How embarrassing.

(There is indeed an "explosive" joke to be made here, but I just cannot bring myself to do it.)
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Well, next time I have to pee on a flight, I'll just go in the empty can from the drink I got. You can thank me on this board when I'm the reason they change the rules again.
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Maybe Depends will take the place of barf bags in the seat pockets. (Although come to think of it, I haven't seen a barf bag on a plane in a long time.)
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Maybe Depends will take the place of barf bags in the seat pockets. (Although come to think of it, I haven't seen a barf bag on a plane in a long time.)
Oh they're still there, trust me.
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I still don't understand why these restrictions only apply during the last 60-90 minutes of flight time. What about the other 6+ hours or so?
Well, the in-flight movie is playing then, and no terrorist wants to miss A Night At The Museum.

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It kind of comes across like a tacit admission that their boarding security procedures aren't up to snuff.

"Okay terrorists, you may get on board, but if you think you're going to crash this plane into a US city, think again. You're just going to have to be satisfied crashing it into the ocean."
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