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Old 09-02-2008, 10:45 PM   #31
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Apologies Irvine.

I believe we are too far apart on some of this stuff to even discuss. I'm unable to express my thoughts in a way that even comes close to making a dent in this presidential race - not even close.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:46 PM   #32
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To summarize Thompson's speech:

"A good presidential candidate needs three things:

1. Character - John McCain has this because he was a POW.
2. Judgment - John McCain has this because he was a POW.
3. Leadership - John McCain has this because he was a POW."
That was the first 5 minutes. I found the rest actually quite interesting.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:46 PM   #33
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Apologies Irvine.

I believe we are too far apart on some of this stuff to even discuss. I'm unable to express my thoughts in a way that even comes close to making a dent in this presidential race - not even close.


it's cool.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:46 PM   #34
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That was the first 5 minutes. I found the rest actually quite interesting.


i found Thompson's biography of McCain quite interesting as well.

the rest ... red meat convention stuff.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:47 PM   #35
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That was the first 5 minutes. I found the rest actually quite interesting.
The first five minutes? That was the whole speech until he started ripping into Obama. There were two sections to his speech:

1. John McCain should be president because he was a POW.
2. Obama sucks.
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:48 PM   #36
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Don't talk to me Liberman.
F'ing Turncoat.
Go ahead and fly which ever the way you think the wind blows.
You won't go any further in any party..
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:48 PM   #37
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He told the story of it very well, actually surprising me with his conviction.

But he did nothing to actually make a reasonable argument for McCain as president.
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Philly,

What's probably horribly sad to you is that I agree, that

To summarize Thompson's speech:

"A good presidential candidate needs three things:

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1. Character - John McCain has this because he was a POW.
2. Judgment - John McCain has this because he was a POW.
3. Leadership - John McCain has this because he was a POW."
That these attributes were PROVEN during that experience, and have been applied over and over again through his life, from that experience.

Do you not think that events like this in people's lives shape their character?
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did the crowd just boo when Lieberman mentioned "global warming."
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Old 09-02-2008, 10:53 PM   #40
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Philly,

What's probably horribly sad to you is that I agree, that

To summarize Thompson's speech:

"A good presidential candidate needs three things:



That these attributes were PROVEN during that experience, and have been applied over and over again through his life, from that experience.

Do you not think that events like this in people's lives shape their character?
Shape parts of their character, yes. Not wholly, as I don't think anything wholly defines someone. But I think it has no bearing in his judgment as president, and in the end, judgment is the thing I take issue most with when it comes to McCain as a presidential candidate.
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did the crowd just boo when Lieberman mentioned "global warming."
I'm sure they did. It doesn't exist, remember? And if it does, God is clearly punishing us because of you gayz and those that believe a woman should be able to make private medical decisions without government intervention. Don't you know that already?
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Phily,

Where those attributes not PROVEN during his POW experience?
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Don't talk to me Liberman.
F'ing Turncoat.
Go ahead and fly which ever the way you think the wind blows.
You won't go any further in any party..
I agree 100% on Lieberman - can't stand him. I'm so glad McCain didn't pick him as VP. On the other hand, being a fan of Obama it's too bad he didn't pick him - it would have torn the Republican party apart and the election would have been over before it began.
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Phily,

Where those attributes not PROVEN during his POW experience?
As it pertains to being president? No.
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Phily,

Where those attributes not PROVEN during his POW experience?
What does being captured during war have to do with being qualified to be president? Does it make his judgement that much better? If that's the case, then wouldn't serving in Vietnam make John Kerry better qualified (when he ran for president) than a man who would have been dishonorably discharged from guard service if daddy didn't pull strings and then allow sleezebags (swift boat) to demean Kerry's actual service? So does that mean you voted for Kerry?
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