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Old 04-28-2009, 07:39 PM   #76
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:48 PM   #77
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He will rise from obscurity. Check
He will be seen in the eyes of the world as a great man of peace. Check

Go early, it should be extra crowded in church this Sunday.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:56 PM   #78
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Well that 2012 movie is coming out next month
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:59 PM   #79
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He will rise from obscurity. Check
He will be seen in the eyes of the world as a great man of peace. Check

Go early, it should be extra crowded in church this Sunday.
You do realize that the "antichrist" theology we hold today is thanks to the 16th century Counter-Reformation, and not any Biblical precepts, right? A Jesuit priest, Francisco Ribera, tied the idea of the "antichrist" to apocalyptic futurism to deflect from the widespread Protestant view that the "antichrist" was the contemporary Papacy. Protestants, too, started to believe in this "futurism" only in the early 20th century. Up until Ribera's writings, the "antichrist" could refer to any number of contemporary enemies of the Church, but none of them were expected to usher in the end of the world.

I'm sure you were probably being facetious, but frankly I'm tired of this kind of superstitious nonsense hampering progress.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:06 PM   #80
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obama is the anti-christ and george w bush killed the dinosaurs
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:13 PM   #81
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You do realize that the "antichrist" theology we hold today is thanks to the 16th century Counter-Reformation, and not any Biblical precepts, right? A Jesuit priest, Francisco Ribera, tied the idea of the "antichrist" to apocalyptic futurism to deflect from the widespread Protestant view that the "antichrist" was the contemporary Papacy. Protestants, too, started to believe in this "futurism" only in the early 20th century. Up until Ribera's writings, the "antichrist" could refer to any number of contemporary enemies of the Church, but none of them were expected to usher in the end of the world.

I'm sure you were probably being facetious, but frankly I'm tired of this kind of superstitious nonsense hampering progress.
As a Christian, I second this post. He's not the anti-Christ. That's just more fear talk from the Right, which is wrong.
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Old 10-09-2009, 02:12 PM   #82
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Agreed, coemgen. There are plenty of reasons to be surprised at Obama's awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize. Fears that he's the Boogeyman aren't one of them.
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This thread isn't funny. It shouldn't be locked (yet), but the very notion that people in general might consider this a legitimate subject of debate is frightening. These kinds of topics (and the other hyperventilation about needing to "take back the country" from a socialist or fascist Obama) is dangerous. Don't tell me about how "spirited" debate is common throughout American political history. Does anyone really have any doubt about the real threat this nonsense (whipped into frenzy by right wing talk radio and tv) presents? Seems like the same propaganda and atmosphere in Israel before a misguided, ultra right wing, self-perceived, patriot felt that he had to murder Itzhak Rabin to "save" Israel.

PS: I'm not suggesting any comments here are out of line or dangerous, just the "issue" at large. We might as well discuss whether or not Obama is a space alien sent to destroy us.
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shouldn't be locked, yet?

locking down threads just prevents persons with the correct information from having an opportunity to present it to misinformed individuals

it also allows misinformed people a chance to either get better informed or expose themselves and their ideas to the daylight, where other people can reach their own conclusions about the arguments presented.
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shouldn't be locked, yet?

locking down threads just prevents persons with the correct information from having an opportunity to present it to misinformed individuals

it also allows misinformed people a chance to either get better informed or expose themselves and their ideas to the daylight, where other people can reach their own conclusions about the arguments presented.
I am in almost complete agreement with what you've said. I don't like seeing threads locked. I said "yet" because no one here suggested that violence was the appropriate response to a suspected "antichrist". Gotta go...catching the train to the Yankees game now. Go Phillies!
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have fun at the game

I think Thomas Friedman wrote an article recently with your same concerns
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He just destroyed the Nobel committee's credibility.
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What?

He nominated himself and fixed the voting?


Axelrod did some pretty shifty things during the primaries keeping Michigan and Florida delegates out.

But I don't think they had anything to do with this.

and you may recall their last attempt to win at the Olympics, they came in last.
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I wondered who dragged this topic back up.
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Old 10-09-2009, 05:52 PM   #90
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The whole world is depending on the U.S. -- and you -- to literally save this planet.
-- Michael Moore posting on news of Barack Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize.
When sycophantic "followers" stop making a Savior out of Barack Obama then others of us will stop making him the antichrist.

Both are equally ridiculous and should be ridiculed at every opportunity.
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