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Old 01-20-2010, 12:41 PM   #91
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I just don't see it. Not even the Cosmo picture.

Oh stop.
It could have been Newt or Teddy in Cosmo, then we'd have something to complain about.

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i have a very smart relative who lives just north of Boston who had this to say:



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Oh don't get me started on Martha. Whom I did not vote for in the primary because (1) she wasn't liberal enough (irony); (2) she would be a lousy candidate (accuracy) -- and I didn't even know then that her competition would be a barn-coatted Playgirl centerfold. Still, look at the turnout figures -- any Democratic organization that can't turn out more than about 30% in low-income cities like Lawrence, Lowell, Chicopee, etc. deserves to lose. I guess it's better after all to have a private fortune to pay election-day workers.

Meanwhile, Brown's campaign was brilliant -- hardly ever mentioned "republican," harped endlessly on "independent," had ads all over the internet. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but that works for republicans, doesn't it. That campaign had money to burn -- from all over. Something calling itself The Tea Bag Party even ran TV ads (prime time) endorsing him. Might be interesting to find out exactly who that was.
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i also expect to see lots of white identity politics.
back to the bitter clingers thing? Just can't accept the fact that most Americans just aren't that into the European-style social welfare state.

Anyway, it's your team that makes everything about race. Democrats are the party of quotas, dialogues on race, teachable moments and Negro dialects. It isn't Republicans saying, "You can't call yourself a blackman and vote against the healthcare bill."

Just thought I'd point that out.
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The article is right with 41, the GOP has a majority.

If they pick up only 4 or 5 Senate seats in November they will have an unstoppable Super- Majority.
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This article

Massachusett's Brown speaks out on health care, bipartisanship - washingtonpost.com

makes Scott seem like a reasonable person.

Sounds like he already has his 2012 re-election foremost in his mind.
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As for the complaints, grievances and fatwas, I do not know of anyone who is of any consequence that has said these are things we need to be sensitive to.
Somehow we had policies in place that let Major Hasan go about identiyng himself as a Soldier Of Allah and utter all kinds of nuttiness without raising the red flags that could have prevented the terrorists attack at Ft Hood. Somehow we had policies in place that let the Underwear Bomber stroll through airport security without the red flags he should have brought up.
I'd call it sensitivity guised as political correctness, what would you call it?

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The fact remains:
1.)We are spending taxpayer money on defending terrorists right now.
2.)We have an inefficient, ineffective military tribunal system set up now at Gitmo that has botched at every turn the trial of the 9/11 mastermind.
3.)We have a federal court system, used by every President from both parties including Bush and Obama, that has proven very effective at locking these guys up and keeping them there.

Tell me why we should change it to score political points for Scott Brown or anyone else?
We spend money either way true. But the last estimate I heard was the trial of KSM in NYC was going to cost $200 million per year. Switching from Gitmo Classic to New Gitmo in Illinois was going to cost hundreds of millions as well. That enough is reason not to change at this time.

As for Brown's "money for weapons not lawyers" being stupid and simple. Well, yea. It's a sound bite. Bumpersticker material. I look forward to hearing him expand on it and explain why we have nothing, nothing, to apologize for in the way our country has defended ourself since 9/11.
Now please don't tell me it's just a few lunatics out there apologizing to the world for Gitmo, interrogation, etc.
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back to the bitter clingers thing? Just can't accept the fact that most Americans just aren't that into the European-style social welfare state.

Anyway, it's your team that makes everything about race. Democrats are the party of quotas, dialogues on race, teachable moments and Negro dialects. It isn't Republicans saying, "You can't call yourself a blackman and vote against the healthcare bill."

Just thought I'd point that out.
And I'm sure we could exhaust ourselves pointing out things about the Republicans but you would deny it till you're blue in the face... oh wait, we've already done that.
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We spend money either way true. But the last estimate I heard was the trial of KSM in NYC was going to cost $200 million per year.
Where did you hear this number?

Gosh freedom and justice are expensive...
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the European-style social welfare state.
BUZZWORDS!
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Hey, look, it's:

BUZZWORDS!
European-style social welfare state -- sorry about my Political Science textbook vernacular. What you'd call Hope and Change.
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Scott Brown even won in Hyannis Port, longtime home of the Kennedys. And in the rest of Cape Cod.
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European-style social welfare state -- sorry about my Political Science textbook vernacular. What you'd call Hope and Change.
hey look, more buzzwords. and hey, what have you got against europe? the place is less fucked up than america.
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And I'm sure we could exhaust ourselves pointing out things about the Republicans but you would deny it till you're blue in the face... oh wait, we've already done that.
Till I'm blue in the face? BVS, you have the avatar that's blue in the face.



Just thought I'd point that out.
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