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This has nothing to do with you or Bob.
I was trying to understand the context. It was an odd transition.
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OK. All forgiven.
This has nothing to do with you or Bob.
I was trying to understand the context. It was an odd transition.
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Nuclear bombs hit my country twice already so yeah, wut up, people?
My great grandfather was at Leyte Gulf on an aircraft carrier that was hit by a kamikaze.
Yeah, it's amazing how many people in the West believe false narratives about the war. Like most people believe that it was the UK and U.S. invading France that led to the end of Nazi Germany, when by that point the war was already won. Once the Nazis were turned back in the Eastern Front and began to retreat, the war was over for them. It's amazing the absolute scale of the Eastern Front and how much bigger it was than the Western Front. I'll find a link to a very good video about WWII casualties and post it.
And not to mention the fact that there's people out there that deny the Holocaust occurred, even though the Holocaust is one of the most thoroughly documented atrocities of history. It's amazing what cognitive dissonance can do to people.
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Why do people also insist on belittling and ignoring the good done by the US / UK /Allies in the war as well, though? Don't pretend like the war wouldn't have continued on longer and meanwhile the atrocities of the Holocaust would have continued. I'm not sure why there's such a stronger desire by modern society to try and turn everything done by the United States into a negative.
That must have been a crazy story. Leyte Gulf was the beginning of the Kamikaze attacks. Biggest naval battle in history.
No one's denying that we did a lot of good things during the war and were the good side in the conflict. The U.S. and UK liberated Western Europe and helped defeat the most evil regime the world has ever seen. But it's important to have an accurate view of history and to realize that even countries that are fighting for a good cause can do bad things. In war, atrocities are committed by both sides and the other side being incredibly worse doesn't excuse actions such as the indiscriminate killing of civilians. Countries are made up of people and people have flaws.
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My point is that there's a danger in only pushing the bad part. Your post seemed to suggest that the Allied actions on the Western front were meaningless beyond Russia.
Hitler made such bad decisions such as invading the ussr because he was injected with a cocktail of drugs by his doctor including Crystal meth daily.
Watched a show on history channel that a synthetic version of meth in tablet form was given to German soldiers allowing them to fight for days on end without empathy. That's one of the reason blitzkrieg was so effective in the first 2 years of the war. But the tweaker soldiers became hopelessly addicted by 1942 and crashed hard when the supply lines were stretched in the east. They wrote letters home begging family and friends to send prevatin (the name for the meth). Was a fascinating show.
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There is no way this is real.
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Actually there's a lot of documentation that methamphetamines and other forms of were highly used by both sides.
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I said the war was pretty much won by the time the UK and US invaded. And I do think that the Western conventional wisdom about the war deemphasizes the Eastern Front. The Nazis lost 500,000 troops total in the Western Front. But in the East, at the Battle of Stalingrad, they lost 500,000 troops and had 100,000 troops taken prisoner and that's just one battle. The scale of the Eastern Front was so much larger than the Western Front. And once Germany began to be pushed back in the Eastern Front it was only a matter of time before they lost. What we did was simply speed up the time before the Nazis were defeated.
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That's an oversimplification. There's no question that folks in the West have been given a very Western-centric view of WW2, much of which almost totally ignores how the Russians beat down the Nazis. But saying the Western-centric view of the war is not the total picture is not an excuse to turn around offer the Eastern-centric view of the war.
History (written objectively) tells us that wars in general, but especially THAT war, are extremely complicated. As was the decision to drop the bombs in '45. People can have varying POVs on all these matters, but the only people that are wrong are being absolute about much any of it.
Seconded.Yes. Very good. Thank you.
There is no way this is real.
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Here is a what if scenario?
Hitler does not invade the Soviet Union in June 41'. Instead accelerates his rocketry and jet research. The me-262 goes into action sooner in greater numbers. The allies didn't get their strategic bombing going until late 42. This would be totally ineffective against the jet fighters. The Germans would have complete air superiority. There is then a small window where they could take Britain before the U.S. Masters its naval supply convoy strategy. Then they could further their ballistic missile technology beyond the V-2. I could see a Cold War breaking out between the U.S. And Germany. Then Germany could choose whether or not to invade the ussr.
On a side note Amazon streaming adapted Philip k dicks "the man in the high castle" which imagines the nazis and Japanese winning and splitting the country in half. Honestly the booked sucked. But the series is set in that universe and the pilot was very cool.
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