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Old 12-02-2008, 02:38 PM   #76
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are you saying you have no confidence in my signature??
Well, BoMac, myself and a few others have had some recent discussions...

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Old 12-02-2008, 02:39 PM   #77
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are you saying you have no confidence in my signature??
What I'm saying is that my signature wants to have your signature for lunch. And it doesn't need to gather a coalition in order to do that.
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Well, BoMac, myself and a few others have had some recent discussions...

Shall we go see Commissioner Buttman, then?
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Only if "most" are completely ignorant of our constitution and how the parliamentary system works.

This "treason" and "coup d'etat" silliness is simply outrageous. If you find yourself uttering such things, pick up a constitutional textbook before embarrassing yourself further.

Obviously an exaggeration on my part using the word treason. I know the Canadian definition thank you. "Most" was meant for people from other countries that might easily see the situation of a political party in a particular country wanting to break-up that country, as being of disservice, disloyal, and unpatriotic to the nation.

In this current situation, or ever, I find being in cahoots(and yes the Cons have done as much in the past but not to the degree as what's happening now) with the one Party that wants to dismantle the country of Canada really isn't to becoming of being "Canadian" is it? The Bloc Quebecois will have a personal hand in shaping government agenda. How on Earth is that beneficial to Canada?



But for you to connect myself to being unread on Canada's constitutional monarchy system is not very nice of you and not very debate friendly.

BTW....I never said I'm a Conservative or a Harper supporter. I just don't agree with this Coaltion gov't being flogged to us. Many other people I've talked to in Vancouver, who are not Conservative, feel the same.
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Shall we go see Commissioner Buttman, then?
It's time.
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Old 12-02-2008, 02:51 PM   #81
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So?

Did you not read BoMac's post? Harper essentially did the same thing in '04. Except now, he's crying victim.
So? Everybody is attacking Harper for bad political moves. Doesn't anybody care about bad policies? It's almost like treating political parties like sports.

Do we need a massive fiscal stimulus? I would love to see a political party actually pay off the stimulus when the economy recovers. If Dion or NDP start doing Green Shit the public will outcry. They better not move the country to the left or our standing in the G20 won't be as high anymore.
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Obviously an exaggeration on my part using the word treason. I know the Canadian definition thank you. "Most" was meant for people from other countries that might easily see the situation of a political party in a particular country wanting to break-up that country, as being of disservice, disloyal, and unpatriotic to the nation.

In this current situation, or ever, I find being in cahoots(and yes the Cons have done as much in the past but not to the degree as what's happening now) with the one Party that wants to dismantle the country of Canada really isn't to becoming of being "Canadian" is it? The Bloc Quebecois will have a personal hand in shaping government agenda. How on Earth is that beneficial to Canada?

Actually, and I do not in any way want to be perceived as defending the Bloc, but in my travels outside the country, "most" people that I have spoken to have expressed admiration that we as a country are able to have such a party in Parliament, and that we are able to determine the future of the country with words and votes rather than bombs and guns. To them it's a sign of the health of our ideals and democracy, and I, for one, am damn proud to live in a country that allows this.

And secondly, I view the current incarnation of the Bloc as being closer to the old Reform/Canadian Alliance party than a separatist faction. Sure, they talk about separatism on the surface, but that's simply to appease some folks back home. They're actually a party that defends Quebec interests in the same vein of the Reformers who espoused their "West wants in" philosophy.
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It's time.
THIS IS UNDEMOCRATIC!!!

I'm dissolving FYM!!
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So? Everybody is attacking Harper for bad political moves. Doesn't anybody care about bad policies? It's almost like treating political parties like sports.

Do we need a massive fiscal stimulus? I would love to see a political party actually pay off the stimulus when the economy recovers. If Dion or NDP start doing Green Shit the public will outcry. They better not move the country to the left or our standing in the G20 won't be as high anymore.
With 62% percent of the electorate voting for a centre-left party (the Liberals are more centrist than outright leftists), I would hardly describe any future shift as moving to the left. That would imply that Canada is a right-leaning country, which it most assuredly is not and may never be.
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So? Everybody is attacking Harper for bad political moves. Doesn't anybody care about bad policies? It's almost like treating political parties like sports.

Do we need a massive fiscal stimulus? I would love to see a political party actually pay off the stimulus when the economy recovers. If Dion or NDP start doing Green Shit the public will outcry. They better not move the country to the left or our standing in the G20 won't be as high anymore.
Just because you're in the bastion of Conservatism doesn't mean that much of the rest of the country isn't left. I'm not sure how old you are or how long you've lived here (you've mentioned your father is an immigrant, I'm not sure if you are too?) but this country has been mainly left for a long time, and will continue to be. Further, the economics you preach, and the sources you trot out on a regular basis are not the definitive answer to the entire profession, no matter how much you may like to pretend they are. People should save? Yeah, that's common sense. But beyond that, you're guessing, like a lot of other people. It's laughable that you think you have all the answers to the economic problems currently facing most nations in the world. You're offering opinions, and nothing more.
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Many other people I've talked to in Vancouver, who are not Conservative, feel the same.
Same here and Toronto is a bastion of Liberal strength!
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In no way am i letting my future be fucked up by some moronic easterners who only care about their own selves. I am going into the oil industry, I am albertan and i am proud of it.
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I don't know why you're waving unless you like the government spending your money. At least in Alberta they try and let us keep more of what we make.
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The Bloc Quebecois will have a personal hand in shaping government agenda. How on Earth is that beneficial to Canada?
The reality of the matter is that the Bloc did not even campaign on a sovereignty plank and have essentially abandoned the issue, at least temporarily. They are not the same party as the PQ, whose position is still far more unyielding. They're essentially a very left Francophone party, which is something nobody wants to say, but nonetheless true.

Interesting that Harper was unafraid of the "sovereigntists" back in 2004 when they were actually running on a platform of sovereignty but now that they've abandoned it, it's become unacceptable to ally with them.
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