PhilsFan
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A Malaysian jet is missing again, this time over Ukraine. Early speculation is running wild after Russia has reportedly shot down several Ukraine jets this week already.
Well fuck... I just heard that a coworker we always had lunch with and who always came to our room to say hi was very likely on that flight. She's been happily telling us about the preparations for her holiday to Indonesia. Damn.
Such a shame. Under the assumption that this was indeed the Russians... what is it with them and shooting down civilian aircraft?
as far as I know that area was only released for commercial flights few days ago, just why in the hell would anyone want to fly over a zone where separatists got anti aircraft missiles ect ?
Putin has fanned the flames that led to this. And just gets rewarded by hosting Olympics and World Cups (and we know Blatter has no balls to move it from Russia or Qatar for that matter.) Though that is a bit off topic, allowing him to stroke his ego in the face of his wild behavior is what I'm getting at. I bet he wishes he could bring back the Soviet Union.
Where to start with this?
I do love it when many people just go the casual "Blame Russia!" route, and not taking into account the actions of the Ukrainian government which seems to get a free pass among many Westerners. And the whole "Putin wants the USSR back" is just lazy.
Pretty sure annexing part of a sovereign nation with little-to-no justification and then encouraging and funding open guerrilla warfare in another part of that country probably means you should likely get the blame when people start shooting.
A referendum in March — widely dismissed as a farce — saw the territory incorporated into Russia.
Believe me, I'm no pro-nationalist anti-Russian character.
I wasn't even referring to KAL 007. I was speaking a bit more modern day, referring to Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 in 2001 (as a BSAE I tend to read into aviation disaster a lot).
But wasn't that an error by the Ukrainian armed forces? I don't remember that crash at all, but upon reading, the Ukrainian armed forces even admitted that they were most likely at fault for it on that particular occasion.
(I was reading on Wikipedia so FWIW feel free to correct me)
Ukraine is blaming Russia and Russia is blaming Ukraine.