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Old 07-10-2009, 01:49 AM   #46
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We really have gone to hell.

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Old 07-10-2009, 02:17 PM   #47
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We really have gone to hell.

Maybe-but honestly it's not Glamour Magazine articles about abortion parties that make me feel that way. It's other things.

No offense Pearl. But I think Glamour tends to run out of things to write about.

Abortion must be a wrenching decision for most women, and men if they're involved in it. I hardly think that most women (or men) would ever do such a thing. But it gives some people something to hang their hats on, so to speak.
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We really have gone to hell.

Nah, hell is just a scary story that priests tell to small children.
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:00 PM   #51
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Maybe-but honestly it's not Glamour Magazine articles about abortion parties that make me feel that way. It's other things.
If that's the case, I can't say anyone who is only "morally opposed" to abortion and calls themselves "personally pro-life" takes the issue very seriously.

If my daughter would ever attend one of these, I will know that I have utterly failed as a father.
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If my daughter would ever attend one of these, I will know that I have utterly failed as a father.


what if your daughter turns to you in 20 years and says, "Mac, i've really thought about the issue, and i am convinced that i support a woman's right to choose. i've done the research, i've talked with both sides, and my experience in life tells me that you've been wrong about this your whole life. my friend is throwing a party, and i'm going to go to support her because i love my friend and i support her choice."

still a failure?
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what if your daughter turns to you in 20 years and says, "Mac, i've really thought about the issue, and i am convinced that i support a woman's right to choose. i've done the research, i've talked with both sides, and my experience in life tells me that you've been wrong about this your whole life. my friend is throwing a party, and i'm going to go to support her because i love my friend and i support her choice."

still a failure?
On a certain level.

I don't think you can take ALL THE CREDIT for a successful child.
I don't think you can take ALL THE CREDIT for a misguided child.

The most you can do is raise them according to the dictates of your own conscience, and hopefully, it makes a difference.
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If that's the case, I can't say anyone who is only "morally opposed" to abortion and calls themselves "personally pro-life" takes the issue very seriously.

Is that directed at me?

I do take it very seriously. I just don't take Glamour Magazine very seriously. That was the point-that other things going on in the world disturb me much more than Glamour Magazine making an issue out of this. Honestly I didn't read the article because I didn't have time. But I will read it. I do look at the magazine and even buy it once in a while for interest in beauty and fashion and maybe something on the cover that gets my attention. Just like all of those other magazines.

But please don't imply that I don't take abortion seriously.
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Is that directed at me?

I do take it very seriously. I just don't take Glamour Magazine very seriously. That was the point-that other things going on in the world disturb me much more than Glamour Magazine making an issue out of this. Honestly I didn't read the article because I didn't have time. But I will read it. I do look at the magazine and even buy it once in a while for interest in beauty and fashion and maybe something on the cover that gets my attention. Just like all of those other magazines.

But please don't imply that I don't take abortion seriously.
If you do, then I really don't know what to make of it. (Point taken about Glamour Magazine, though)

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I mean, I'm pro choice and all but gathering to celebrate the killing off of a fetus is pretty f'in morbid and callous.
Should such a decisions not be carried out with the utmost seriousness and respect to the life that is about to be extinguished?
"Not about to" have a baby because she is 22 and just doesn't want to ruin her fun time is why the pro choice movement has so much trouble. This is abusing that right to choose, and the party, and the other girls wanting to exclude and resenting the boyfriend, this is some seriously cold shit and it offers a new glimpse into the downright darkness that resides in the female soul. This is some stone age pagan shit right here, can't believe it is happening in 2009!
As Winston Churchill said, "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
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If you do, then I really don't know what to make of it

Maybe you should just come out and say what you mean instead of being so obtuse

The "downright darkness that exists in the female soul"? Wow, such a statement derived from a Glamour Magazine article. I'm off to read GQ to discover the downright darkness that exists in the male soul.

That's the "truth"? If that's the truth I hate to see a lie.
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The "downright darkness that exists in the female soul"?


we all know that if men could get pregnant, they would never have abortions.

it's just those evil females, tempted by apples and snakes throughout history.
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I'm just wondering if it's just for that time of the month, or all the time
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I'm just wondering if it's just for that time of the month, or all the time


that's why there should be a 3-day waiting period for all abortions.

she could change her mind.

you know how women are.
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Maybe you should just come out and say what you mean instead of being so obtuse
Sure...

What do you suggest the state of Massachussetts do to reduce the number of abortions, which amount to some 1.3 million a year in the United States? Since that is the rhetoric of pro-choice advocates, so to speak.

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The "downright darkness that exists in the female soul"? Wow, such a statement derived from a Glamour Magazine article. I'm off to read GQ to discover the downright darkness that exists in the male soul.
We all have our dark sides. There's a dark side to the male that approves and encourages this atrocity. They don't want to take responsibility for knocking up a woman.

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That's the "truth"? If that's the truth I hate to see a lie.
The truth is that this poster obviously knows it's morally repugnant for these "abortion parties" to be the new baby showers. [S]he also talked about "respect for life." 1.3 million abortions in America, and a party on top of it finally amounts to "abusing the 'right to choose.'" Surely, there's more under the surface than a simply tasteless excuse for a party.
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