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Old 08-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #661
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The calculation was simply:

Hillary = woman
Palin = woman
woman = woman
QED
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:13 PM   #662
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Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

awesome! who needs the Romneys now?
Is this election going to be about childrens' names?
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She's gonna have to debate Biden...yowza.
Yeah, that's going to be so beautiful to watch!

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it's so funny.

you're now defending Palin for all the things that's been used against Obama.

it makes every argument against Obama totally, completely disingenuous.
The flipside, of course, is that we can't really knock her for being inexperienced, no matter how tempting it is. If it were to be used as an issue, I think the successful approach would be to call McCain a flip-flopper or to say he has poor judgment. Soemthing along the lines of: "We don't think that experience is an issue. We think Barack Obama has everything he needs to be President of the United States. John McCain, however, does think that experience is an issue. His campaign has said so for the last several months. And yet, he picks a VP who lacks the experience he says is necessary. John McCain----flip-flopper/John McCain---do you trust his judgment?"
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Is this election going to be about childrens' names?


yes. yes it is.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:18 PM   #666
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"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."
-statement from Obama spokesperson
sooo... a) are they ignoring that she's a governor, b) are they assuming, with the statement that she is now a "heartbeat away," that john mccain is going to win?
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"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency."
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Alaska is only slightly smaller than Delaware, where Obama's VP is from, who by the way, has no executive governing experience.
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Alaska is only slightly smaller than Delaware, where Obama's VP is from, who by the way, has no executive governing experience.


who has been in the senate for 32 years and is widely considered the most well-versed Senator in Congress when it comes to foreign policy.

i don't see how "executive governing experience" is now such a sticking point.

when McCain doesn't have any.
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I keep hearing people on radio, TV, in here stress that she's a mother...

Did I miss something?! No one said this about Hillary. No one stresses fatherhood with male politicians.
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who has been in the senate for 32 years and is widely considered the most well-versed Senator in Congress when it comes to foreign policy.

i don't see how "executive governing experience" is now such a sticking point.

when McCain doesn't have any.
Because governors win elections. Gore/Lieberman? 2 senators. Kerry/Edwards? 2 senators. Obama/Biden? 2 senators. Why Obama didn't get the message to pick a governor, I don't know. Governors, not senators, win the white house, at least in recent history.
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who by the way, has no executive governing experience.

Once again you're shooting yourself in the foot...
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who has been in the senate for 32 years and is widely considered the most well-versed Senator in Congress when it comes to foreign policy.

i don't see how "executive governing experience" is now such a sticking point.

when McCain doesn't have any.

Exactly. "Executive" being the Executive Branch---you know, the President and the Vice President. Jeez, seems to me like there've been only a limited few in all of American history with that experience. "Executive" as in state? If Obama is knocked for having little experience, why do two measly years as Alaskan governor carry such heft as "executive experience?"

To edit what I said earlier about the Biden-Palin debate going to be beautiful.... As a huge Biden fan (esp. with debates & performance), and looking through Palin's stuff on youtube right now, he's going to tuck her away pretty nicely. I wonder, though---if he comes off as attacking her, will that be seen as cruel? Will the gender card be slyly played? I don't think that it should be an issue, but I do wonder if it will.
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Because governors win elections. Gore/Lieberman? 2 senators. Kerry/Edwards? 2 senators. Obama/Biden? 2 senators. Why Obama didn't get the message to pick a governor, I don't know. Governors, not senators, win the white house, at least in recent history.


so McCain is toast, isn't he.
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Because governors win elections. Gore/Lieberman? 2 senators. Kerry/Edwards? 2 senators. Obama/Biden? 2 senators. Why Obama didn't get the message to pick a governor, I don't know. Governors, not senators, win the white house, at least in recent history.
Known governors.
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Because governors win elections.
Then ya'all should have gone with Romney when you had the chance.

Pat Buchanan thinks she's not ready to be commander in chief. She's also being ripped to shreds over there at the librul National Review.

Because McCain thinks that women are just simple vaginas, I truly think he made a terrible, terrible choice. Mitt would have been way better. I know STING is sold on Ridge but I still don't think the base cares about pro-choice candidates. But he would have been better too in some states. Pawlenty I thought was a bad choice, and this is just about on the same level, except worse.
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