bonoman
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She's avoiding the question!
Get at her Joe!!!!!!!!!
Get at her Joe!!!!!!!!!
2008 U.S. Presidential Election: Vice-Presidential Debate
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U2isthebest
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Wow, her environmental plan is that we conserve energy? I wish someone would have thought about that before.
randhail
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Senator Obiden? 
Harry Vest
Refugee
You guys are so partisan it's laughable. My friend, who is working for Obama in New York just emailed me and said Palin won the first 15 min and Biden is winning the second 15 min. At least he's not so partisan (even though he is) to laugh off everything she says. I'm listening on the computer (unable to watch unfortunately) and she sounds surprisingly astute compared to the t.v. interviews. It's kinda weird isn't it???
She's avoiding every question. Funny she says nuclear just like Bush.....not a good sign.
bonoman
Refugee
thid is a good question
bonoman
Refugee
in other words:
i have some gay friends
i have some gay friends
financeguy
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On another forum I browse, they're more or less calling it evens. Let's face it, we knew all along that the thread on FYM would be a 'Ohmigods, Palin's failin' shitefest.
ImOuttaControl
Refugee
Agreed. They're both doing a good job...I think this debate is actually better than the obama/mccain debate last friday
bonoman
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If you take expectation into play, she's winning.
Thats coming from a left leaning independent
indra
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I think most people hear what they want to hear in these debates. 
Harry Vest
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It's probably being watched by millions more people as well.
Daddysgonnapay
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You Betcha!
U2isthebest
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Really? I have to say that I am in complete 100% in disagreement with Obama and Biden with their opposition to gay marriage. I have no defense or will make no excuse to Biden's response to the specific gay marriage question.
I'm about 15 minutes behind live, so this may be a little delayed...
She's coming across pretty darn well overall. However, many of her answers are, surprise, surprise, lacking substance, and showing a lack of understanding.
On the subject of McCain's support of deregulation, she says "well when it comes to rules and regulations, you know it's well known that John McCain is a maverick, like when it comes to tobacco laws..."
1. That shows very poor listening comprehension. Deregulation is not "rules and regulations," Sarah.
2. It completely dodges the question. Completely. She offered no rebuttal to Biden's claims.
She's coming across pretty darn well overall. However, many of her answers are, surprise, surprise, lacking substance, and showing a lack of understanding.
On the subject of McCain's support of deregulation, she says "well when it comes to rules and regulations, you know it's well known that John McCain is a maverick, like when it comes to tobacco laws..."
1. That shows very poor listening comprehension. Deregulation is not "rules and regulations," Sarah.
2. It completely dodges the question. Completely. She offered no rebuttal to Biden's claims.
"I've only been at this 5 weeks"
Not a flattering comment...
Not a flattering comment...
U2isthebest
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Palin is still trying to figure out where Pakistan is.
U2isthebest
ONE love, blood, life
Can someone explain what the CNN graph of Ohio voters is supposed to be measuring?
VintagePunk
Blue Crack Distributor
Partisan opinion? She's not standing there drooling like an idiot. Some questions she's answering fairly well, but she's also dodging a heck of a lot of others. Biden just seems more direct and to the point to me. If that's partisan, so be it.
Se7en
Rock n' Roll Doggie
watch out for cuba, guys!!!
VintagePunk
Blue Crack Distributor
The opinions of a small group of undecided Ohio voters split between Republicans, Dems and Independents, 32 altogether. It's in real time, whether they feel positively, neutral, or negatively about what the candidate is currently saying.
BrownEyedBoy
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Was there any possible way for her to "win" this debate? What would she have to do? Even from the beginning?
Everyone is waiting for her to so much as stutter to put her down.
Everyone is waiting for her to so much as stutter to put her down.
Spot on. And the above applies to the 15 minutes you missed, too.
Listen, she's not bumbling like she did in all of her interviews. But is that the only qualification we're looking for to say that she's doing well?
Two-thirds of the questions she's responding to have not been met with answers. In the first 40 minutes, she dodged questions she didn't want to answer and instead gave canned responses to tangent topics. How many answers of hers started off with: "First, Gwen, let me go back and address...," only to never get to the question asked?
bonoman
Refugee
That's just it---if she doesn't stutter and bumble around, she'll be seen as "winning" by "not losing."
U2isthebest
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But how do we tell if they're agreeing or disagreeing with Biden or Palin?
VintagePunk
Blue Crack Distributor
The middle part of the graph is neutral. Up is positive, down is negative. Look at the very right side of it as they're speaking - that shows the impact of the current words. If the line goes up, the people agree, if it goes down, they disagree. And as you can see, it's split between men and women, men green, women orangey.
The very right side indicates the thoughts on the current words spoken, so, it's whoever's speaking at the time.
It is hard to call, because of the expectations.
Take that away, he has been more direct in answering questions. I think he is ahead.
I had such low expectations, I am trying to sort through in my mind, is she really doing better?
I am leaning Joe.
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