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Old 11-07-2008, 10:11 PM   #451
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I thought it was more along the lines of national service in exchange for college tuition.
It is a question of consensuality, if there is voluntary service with perks that can be alright but if it is mandatory then there is an issue.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:32 PM   #452
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Obama taking a shot at Nancy Reagan was junvenile, he didn't have the gnads to mention Hillary similar actions:



Adviser downplays Hillary Clinton's conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt
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NEWARK, New Jersey (CNN) -- The woman described by Bob Woodward as a spiritual adviser to first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton disputed several of Woodward's published assertions Sunday night .

Jean Houston, interviewed at the Newark Airport by CNN, said that Mrs. Clinton did indeed have imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt at Houston's suggestion. (153K AIFF or WAV sound)

"(But) that was maybe four minutes out of hours and hours of conversation," she said.


In his new book "The Choice," Woodward wrote that Houston, co-director of the Foundation of Mind Research, urged Mrs. Clinton to write "It Takes a Village," and assisted extensively in rewrites. Houston said that she did help edit the book, but that Mrs. Clinton "wrote that book entirely."

Houston said she made the suggestion to hold the imaginary conversations with Mrs. Roosevelt and others "to focus her busy mind on issues that surrounded the book." (255K AIFF or WAV sound)

"That was it," Houston said. "No spooks. No seances. Nothing. She's the least psychic person I've known, and I'm a close second. ... I don't have a psychic bone in my body." (204K AIFF or WAV sound)

Mrs. Clinton wrote about her imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt in her June 10 syndicated column. She said she talked to Roosevelt about the role of a first lady.

"She usually responds by telling me to buck up, or at least to grow skin as thick as a rhinoceros," Mrs. Clinton wrote.

Houston responded to questions about her comparison to the astrologer who advised Nancy Reagan, saying the difference was "about 180 degrees."

"We (Houston and Mrs. Clinton) were just friends," she said. "Our friendship was one of ladies of a certain age, with similar experience, trying to see how the world is going."

"I hope it's just a two-day wonder," Houston added, about the media attention Woodward's book has given her. "I think [journalist H.L.] Mencken said 'today's tragedies are tomorrow's jokes.' I hope I become a joke fast." (77K AIFF or WAV sound)

The White House also defended Mrs. Clinton on Sunday, saying the revelations, which take up only a few pages of Woodward's book, were overblown.

"To describe it as a consultation with psychics, I think, is to try to .. put it in the wrong frame," White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta said Sunday on CBS. (162K AIFF or WAV sound)

"This is not a mystic, this is not channeling," said Neel Lattimore, Mrs. Clinton's spokesman. "This is just her talking, especially at a time when she was working on her book."

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
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Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for seance remark

Imagine that - someone with the gnads to admit to being wrong, and to apologize for it. Certain people around here could do with a dose of Obama's humility.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:16 AM   #457
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Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for seance remark

Imagine that - someone with the gnads to admit to being wrong, and to apologize for it. Certain people around here could do with a dose of Obama's humility.
Instead you get Tourette's without the profanity......"birth certificate!!!!"................."I'm a bigot!!!!!!!"............"Look what Rush said!!!!!"........
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:27 AM   #458
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Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for seance remark

Imagine that - someone with the gnads to admit to being wrong, and to apologize for it. Certain people around here could do with a dose of Obama's humility.
I can't believe diamond missed this
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:28 AM   #459
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"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:03 AM   #460
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Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for seance remark

Imagine that - someone with the gnads to admit to being wrong, and to apologize for it. Certain people around here could do with a dose of Obama's humility.
he's 0 for 1 at press conferences.

that it was politically expedient he apologized-good for him.

the larger point is that Hillary was the one talking to dead polictical figures, while Nancy only consulted Astologists.

the guy doesn't have his facts straight.

therefore 0 for 1 at press conferences.

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he's 0 for 1 at press conferences.

that it was politically expedient he apologized-good for him.

the larger point is that Hillary was the one talking to dead polictical figures, while Nancy only consulted Astologists.

the guy doesn't have his facts straight.

therefore 0 for 1 at press conferences.

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Yeah, so? A lot of times you don't have your facts straight either, and I don't hear apologies from you.

Therefore, 0 for 2,000 at posting.

My point stands.
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I'm not the President Elect, small difference: nor do I seek public office.



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I'm not the President Elect, small difference: nor do I seek public office.



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Certain people around here could do with a dose of Obama's humility.
Small difference to you, maybe. I look at it as being an issue of human decency and politeness. Obama's decent and polite. Others...not so much.
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I'm not the President Elect, small difference: nor do I seek public office.



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Yeah, so? A lot of times you don't have your facts straight either, and I don't hear apologies from you.

Therefore, 0 for 2,000 at posting.

My point stands.
actually if you havent agreed w 2000 of my posts and my post count is over 11,000..i think over 80% of the time-I'm right.


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