Mrs. Garrison
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oh, well maybe we should all shut down our laptops and go on vacation until september then (with our brand new A&E swim trunks)
How is NLOTH doing in the mainstream? Is it a big album?
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oh, well maybe we should all shut down our laptops and go on vacation until september then (with our brand new A&E swim trunks)
Mrs. Garrison
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on topic, i could honestly give a fuck if NLOTH is mainstream anymore. I wanted it to succeed, well it was number 1 and is the biggest selling album this year, but given that everything else on that list is shit (with a couple of exceptions) what does that even mean?
Nothing, other than the music industry sucks, its run by a bunch of fucking idiots, and stupid kids with no taste buy horrible music that fat balding old men promote to death. Why do we need these dirty old men deciding what is played on the radio anyway?
We should have our own mind, we should be able to decide what sounds good because we like it not because its played three times per hour on the shittiest radio station in the entire fucking universe! FUCK THE RADIO
FUCK RADIO
FUCK MAINSTREAM RADIO!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK IT ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my new car has XM, my other car has XM capability, or i could plug in an ipod. IM seriously not giving a fuck for any of them assholes. THey are NOT going to fucking decide what i listen to . I do not need to spend ONE MORE DAY listening to ALL AMERICAN REJECTS' 'GIVE YOU HELL' 15 fucking times! THEY CAN GO TO HELL themselves, and i dont even care that they are from my state, FUCK THEM. AND THAT GOES FOR all of these fucking American Idol winners too. Since when......tell me why does this country now have a REALITY TV show to decide who is going to be a pop star and get their shitty ass songs played 1 MILLION times a day? WHY? Reality tv SUCKS, (along with MTV, VH1, etc) WHY WHY WHY? How stupid are we as a nation to have let this happen to us? I blame our children, but i also blame the parents of these embicles.
FUCK Kelly Clarkson, Fuck David Cook the douche bag, FUCK Clay Aiken, Fuck all of those judges, Fuck Ryan Seacrest, Fuck .....the list goes on....fuck the morons who watch this show......FUCK the morons who go out and buy the idiots albums....fuck all of these radio stations that play them....fuck all of these station programmers who dont have the balls to play anything that is not on their STANDARD PLAYLIST....
AND FUCK THE FCC
Nothing, other than the music industry sucks, its run by a bunch of fucking idiots, and stupid kids with no taste buy horrible music that fat balding old men promote to death. Why do we need these dirty old men deciding what is played on the radio anyway?
We should have our own mind, we should be able to decide what sounds good because we like it not because its played three times per hour on the shittiest radio station in the entire fucking universe! FUCK THE RADIO
FUCK RADIO
FUCK MAINSTREAM RADIO!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK IT ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my new car has XM, my other car has XM capability, or i could plug in an ipod. IM seriously not giving a fuck for any of them assholes. THey are NOT going to fucking decide what i listen to . I do not need to spend ONE MORE DAY listening to ALL AMERICAN REJECTS' 'GIVE YOU HELL' 15 fucking times! THEY CAN GO TO HELL themselves, and i dont even care that they are from my state, FUCK THEM. AND THAT GOES FOR all of these fucking American Idol winners too. Since when......tell me why does this country now have a REALITY TV show to decide who is going to be a pop star and get their shitty ass songs played 1 MILLION times a day? WHY? Reality tv SUCKS, (along with MTV, VH1, etc) WHY WHY WHY? How stupid are we as a nation to have let this happen to us? I blame our children, but i also blame the parents of these embicles.
FUCK Kelly Clarkson, Fuck David Cook the douche bag, FUCK Clay Aiken, Fuck all of those judges, Fuck Ryan Seacrest, Fuck .....the list goes on....fuck the morons who watch this show......FUCK the morons who go out and buy the idiots albums....fuck all of these radio stations that play them....fuck all of these station programmers who dont have the balls to play anything that is not on their STANDARD PLAYLIST....
AND FUCK THE FCC
This album has been kind of bittersweet for me. I absolutely fucking adore it. I think that it is their best album in ages. I think that they deserve to make huge amounts of money from it. I think that the masses should hear it, I think it could be good for music, hell, I think it could be good for culture as a whole. U2 are intentionally standing out from most music. They want to be heard and they want to be popular but they're do it by not conforming, but by making really amazing music with a very 2000s flare (instead of hiding in another decade, or capitalizing on a late-90s-based highly electronic "experimental" sound that they use record after record), and leading rather than following. I would have loved to see the look on Chris Martin's face when he heard this album.
At the same time, though, I think that this album is so special that it would almost be degrading to hear songs (especially in single edits) from it on the radio, mixed in with all the other crap there.
Also, mainstream radio has always been terrible. I'm not sure why people are so nostalgic for mainstream radio of this past. But that's coming from someone who doesn't think that the Beatles are anything special, so don't take me too seriously, I guess.
At the same time, though, I think that this album is so special that it would almost be degrading to hear songs (especially in single edits) from it on the radio, mixed in with all the other crap there.
Also, mainstream radio has always been terrible. I'm not sure why people are so nostalgic for mainstream radio of this past. But that's coming from someone who doesn't think that the Beatles are anything special, so don't take me too seriously, I guess.
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oh, well maybe we should all shut down our laptops and go on vacation until september then (with our brand new A&E swim trunks)
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Mrs. Garrison
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i agree with you except on the last part. To say that mainstream radio has always been terrible...i cannot agree with that at all. Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby were all over mainstream radio back in their day...but thats just a drop in the bucket. If you listen to XM's First Wave for any length of time you will hear a lot of the following: U2, Morrissey, Depeche Mode, New Order, OMD, REM, INXS, Pet Shop Boys, Echo & the Bunneymen, David Bowie, The Cure, Erasure, Tears for Fears, and many many more that i cannot even think of right now. All of which were big on mainstream radio when i was growing up. And most of it is GREAT! You can't tell me that anything on the radio today can hold a candle to this great stuff. I realize that taste is subjective...but back then we did not have Ipods, XM, etc. Back then MTV & VH1 played music videos, and they didn't suck. Back then the Top 40 had some pretty decent songs, unlike now.
The difference is, there is good music now being put out by new artists, it's just not played on mainstream radio. You can hear it on college stations, if you are lucky enough to get one of those dialed in, and you can sure hear it on XM stations like ALT NATION, but its nowhere to be found on most of these nationwide monoply mainstream behemoths like we have now. Which is sad because these mainstream stations that suck so bad now used to play good shit when i was a kid.
Zoots
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Exactly right!
People like shit.
NLOTH is actually brilliant.
Hence NLOTH flops.
People = Shit.
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kingofsorrow
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on topic, i could honestly give a fuck if NLOTH is mainstream anymore. I wanted it to succeed, well it was number 1 and is the biggest selling album this year, but given that everything else on that list is shit (with a couple of exceptions) what does that even mean?
Nothing, other than the music industry sucks, its run by a bunch of fucking idiots, and stupid kids with no taste buy horrible music that fat balding old men promote to death. Why do we need these dirty old men deciding what is played on the radio anyway?
We should have our own mind, we should be able to decide what sounds good because we like it not because its played three times per hour on the shittiest radio station in the entire fucking universe! FUCK THE RADIO
FUCK RADIO
FUCK MAINSTREAM RADIO!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK IT ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my new car has XM, my other car has XM capability, or i could plug in an ipod. IM seriously not giving a fuck for any of them assholes. THey are NOT going to fucking decide what i listen to . I do not need to spend ONE MORE DAY listening to ALL AMERICAN REJECTS' 'GIVE YOU HELL' 15 fucking times! THEY CAN GO TO HELL themselves, and i dont even care that they are from my state, FUCK THEM. AND THAT GOES FOR all of these fucking American Idol winners too. Since when......tell me why does this country now have a REALITY TV show to decide who is going to be a pop star and get their shitty ass songs played 1 MILLION times a day? WHY? Reality tv SUCKS, (along with MTV, VH1, etc) WHY WHY WHY? How stupid are we as a nation to have let this happen to us? I blame our children, but i also blame the parents of these embicles.
FUCK Kelly Clarkson, Fuck David Cook the douche bag, FUCK Clay Aiken, Fuck all of those judges, Fuck Ryan Seacrest, Fuck .....the list goes on....fuck the morons who watch this show......FUCK the morons who go out and buy the idiots albums....fuck all of these radio stations that play them....fuck all of these station programmers who dont have the balls to play anything that is not on their STANDARD PLAYLIST....
AND FUCK THE FCC
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zoopop
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Comparing NLOTH to POP based on sales is superficial. POP selling its 1-2 million (USA) back in 1997 is considered a flop by U2 standards. NLOTH selling even 500K (USA) in 2009 is a success in todays age of musical access.
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on topic, i could honestly give a fuck if NLOTH is mainstream anymore. I wanted it to succeed, well it was number 1 and is the biggest selling album this year, but given that everything else on that list is shit (with a couple of exceptions) what does that even mean?
Nothing, other than the music industry sucks, its run by a bunch of fucking idiots, and stupid kids with no taste buy horrible music that fat balding old men promote to death. Why do we need these dirty old men deciding what is played on the radio anyway?
We should have our own mind, we should be able to decide what sounds good because we like it not because its played three times per hour on the shittiest radio station in the entire fucking universe! FUCK THE RADIO
FUCK RADIO
FUCK MAINSTREAM RADIO!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK IT ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
my new car has XM, my other car has XM capability, or i could plug in an ipod. IM seriously not giving a fuck for any of them assholes. THey are NOT going to fucking decide what i listen to . I do not need to spend ONE MORE DAY listening to ALL AMERICAN REJECTS' 'GIVE YOU HELL' 15 fucking times! THEY CAN GO TO HELL themselves, and i dont even care that they are from my state, FUCK THEM. AND THAT GOES FOR all of these fucking American Idol winners too. Since when......tell me why does this country now have a REALITY TV show to decide who is going to be a pop star and get their shitty ass songs played 1 MILLION times a day? WHY? Reality tv SUCKS, (along with MTV, VH1, etc) WHY WHY WHY? How stupid are we as a nation to have let this happen to us? I blame our children, but i also blame the parents of these embicles.
FUCK Kelly Clarkson, Fuck David Cook the douche bag, FUCK Clay Aiken, Fuck all of those judges, Fuck Ryan Seacrest, Fuck .....the list goes on....fuck the morons who watch this show......FUCK the morons who go out and buy the idiots albums....fuck all of these radio stations that play them....fuck all of these station programmers who dont have the balls to play anything that is not on their STANDARD PLAYLIST....
AND FUCK THE FCC
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Best post of the year. You put into words what I've been feeling for a long time. Thank you.
zoopop
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Mrs. Garrison they have a new American Idol at Disney World.....I guess you'll be sitting that one out? 
Awesome post!!
Awesome post!!
SamuelSmeloc
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it's the best selling album of 2009 so far- yeah it's sales are down but that's a universal problem for all bands- I guess Green Day will be an interesting comparison...but as long as I like it I don't care how well it sells
it may not be as mainstream as AB and ATYCLB but aside from Magnificent it has nothing remotely commercial as BD ot E or WO on it
it may not be as mainstream as AB and ATYCLB but aside from Magnificent it has nothing remotely commercial as BD ot E or WO on it
Mrs. Garrison
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thank you all. 
Danny Boy
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I am currently maintaining a personal boycott of any album or song performed by anyone who was ever a contestant on American Idol. Although, honestly, it doesn't take too much will power. It's sort of like boycotting non-alcoholic beer.
Anywho, I think the "mainstream" is just really fragmented these days. There's such a variety of musical genres now that no band is going to be all things to all people.
Except Coldplay, of course.
Anywho, I think the "mainstream" is just really fragmented these days. There's such a variety of musical genres now that no band is going to be all things to all people.
Except Coldplay, of course.
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All that matters to me is that the album sounds great to my ears and that they are stepping back into a more creative direction. So I don't really mind how it's going in the charts, i'd definitely prefer something as good as this that flopped over something in the vein of the Bomb that was more commercially successful and more mainstream.
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what I don't get is that if we all agree that what can be considered the mainstream at the moment is utter shite why we wouldn't want that to change
though it wouldn't really matter at all to me personally it would still make more sense to want the mainstream to change for the better than to curse the mainstream and rejoice in a great album that deserves to be heard to not make much (if any) impact on it
though it wouldn't really matter at all to me personally it would still make more sense to want the mainstream to change for the better than to curse the mainstream and rejoice in a great album that deserves to be heard to not make much (if any) impact on it
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Can't say that NLOTH has much presence in the mainstream around here; no radioplay, no buzz. I know plenty of people who like U2 but have no interest in the new album, mostly because they heard Boots and decided that U2 "lost it".
I wouldn't call it refreshing; if anything it seems to indicate that U2 may have finally reached that inevitable plateau where the public still loves your older stuff but largely ignores the new stuff.
I wouldn't call it refreshing; if anything it seems to indicate that U2 may have finally reached that inevitable plateau where the public still loves your older stuff but largely ignores the new stuff.
believer75
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The KOL album is a good one.
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I think this is the fate that everybody is trying to deny, but I do believe U2 have ultimately reached this. The only thing that remains to be seen is how
U2 react to this happening. I imagine 2 scenarios:
1. Since they are no longer mainstream, they take this opportunity to make the albums they want to make, since they don't have to worry about hit singles. Maybe they already realized this with NLOTH?
2. They will no longer give a shit about their new albums (Rolling Stones), and just churn something out before each tour to give them an excuse to stage yet another top grossing tour.
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But I'm curious as to how having the biggest selling album is ignoring the new stuff?
I could care less about sales, but it seems like the only way to really judge "the mainstream". You say they aren't getting any radioplay, but where do you live? Do you live in a market that would normally play new rock music?
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