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Old 01-16-2012, 03:57 PM   #76
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oh, i like DYFL. quite a bit.

it's just that most people thought Pop was crap. that's not why they're in section 402 in Giants Stadium.
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um, ok.


Unless of course if you mean that nostalgia act last leg of 360 ? That was, indeed, U2 at its most populist.
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:51 PM   #78
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Imagine if you were 14 in 2005 and became a U2 fan. You're now 20 or 21 and you've experienced one U2 release.
This in a nutshell is why U2 aren't "relevant".
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Old 01-16-2012, 05:54 PM   #79
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This in a nutshell is why U2 aren't "relevant".
How is that any different from the time between Zooropa and Pop? Were they "relevant" then?
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How is that any different from the time between Zooropa and Pop? Were they "relevant" then?
The gap between Zooropa and Pop was just under 4 years, and a side project album was released between them. The gap Numbers was talking about is closer to 7 years with only one full release.

And the period prior to the Zooropa/Pop gap was a great deal more fruitful, with a blockbuster album just two years before, and a massive hit tour. U2 has done that, but hasn't released enough music to make the two eras comparable. Zooropa/Passengers/Pop pissed a lot of people off, but at least there was music to judge and ground to be broken.
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And U2 were younger then. Which definitely makes a difference.
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The band would have to infuse dubstep/electronic elements to deem it a new kind of genre for them -- though I'm fearful, POP was a failure in America.

Boots seemed to be not entirely well received in America... if they came out with a song that was similar to 'Pumped Up Kicks' -- who knows?
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The band would have to infuse dubstep/electronic elements to deem it a new kind of genre for them -- though I'm fearful, POP was a failure in America.
Doing this would be make them sound like AARP cardholders trying desperately to be young and cool and hip. "Electronic rock", alternative dance, synthrock whatever you want to call it - that ship has now sailed. I don't think they should attempt a POP 2. Even when they were 35/36 people were saying they were too old to start jumping bandwagons. To do so now would mean complete ridicule.
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They need to make an album that they're proud of and that the fans would love. Who cares about how well it does?
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oh, i like DYFL. quite a bit.
They should just release DYFL right now. It's perfect.
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The gap between Zooropa and Pop was just under 4 years, and a side project album was released between them. The gap Numbers was talking about is closer to 7 years with only one full release.
I was in college when Passengers came out, believe me hardly anyone noticed. In addition to that your math isn't working. Just under 4 years vs 4 years and about 3 months.
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U2 need to release a double album - one disc rockin and the other experimental - problem solved.
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In addition to that your math isn't working. Just under 4 years vs 4 years and about 3 months.
2005 - nothing
2006 - nothing
2007 - nothing
2008 - nothing
2009 - NLOTH
2010 - nothing
2011 - nothing
2012 - probably nothing

There has been 1 album released in 7 years. You attempted to compare this drought to 1993-1997, which had three releases from the band. I can't help but agree that U2 have dug themselves into a hole by following a release schedule that allows them too much creative freedom to remain vital. U2's most creative material was recorded in haste, and it takes new material to remain in the minds of the public, so I don't understand the apologists anymore. U2 needs to release music at a faster pace, for their own good.
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Here's Springsteen's releases in the same period:

2005 - Devils & Dust
2006 - We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions
and: Hammersmith Odeon London '75 (archival live album)
2007 - Magic
and: Live in Dublin
2008 - nothing
2009 - Working On A Dream
and: Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band Greatest Hits (compilation)
2010: The Promise (old material, but all previously unreleased + accompanying documentary film)
2011: nothing
2012: New Studio Album!

Even discounting the archival stuff and compilations, that's 6 albums of new material in the period U2 will probably release 1 (short) album. And this is an artist 10 years older than U2, who has lost no relevance.
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