Why are U2 so hated?

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I think a lot of it stems from the fact that the band (Bono more visibly than the rest of the guys and, therefore, more the target) have had the audacity to become successful and actually enjoy their success. I mean, can you believe the nerve? :rolleyes: And they've enjoyed themselves without marital affairs, public feuds, drug overdoses, etc., etc. (not counting Adam's probs with alcohol - that's Rock Star 101). Not many other long-time successful artists have managed that & I think it has a lot to do with the hatred: they are living proof that sometimes good guys DO win at life. That tends to rile up the people who are bitter about their own lives and begrudge anyone else's good fortune.
 
Bono's admitted that the lure of the rock star for him was actually about insecurity and constantly angling U2 for the largest stage possible seems to confirm that. Sure he has an ego, but it's one that he doesn't appear to believe in himself, like if U2 were to fade away instead of going out on top it would take away from what they achieved and his own opinion of himself. Enough is enough though, you got to that stage time and again, yet you keep retracting the music you like to create to feed that. You're friends with Bruce Springsteen, take a page from his book, he isn't going top the charts but he isn't considered a heritage act either, a lot of the fans are excited that he still makes and plays new music. Your hardcore fanbase will be with you and their the ones who should mean more, no? Let the music be more natural and more often, strip down the touring so that it isn't some big machine any more. It's possible to still build set pieces into things that aren't U2 360 or even Vertigo/Elevation.

It's not just Bono either, U2 are not the most sophisticated musicians and the level of success achieved for what you'll hear denigrated as platitudinous anthems or simple arpegiated guitar lines irritates people. If you don't get swept up in the fact that they are far more than the sum of their parts, you probably don't see the appeal beyond the hooks of singles. Their choice of material and singles to present to the world since Pop isn't helping. That and earnestness has never been cool, especially nowadays, just look at how they converted some people for awhile with the (somewhat put on) ironic edge in the 90's (and just as much turned off others). Righteous anger riles people up in a popular way throughout rock history, but that isn't often linked to spirituality the way it is with U2.

Maybe some day when we're at a distance from their career a younger generation can discover their music and its place in its time without the baggage of people constantly yelling over it to tell the world how much they hate it/them.
 
BluRmGrl said:
I think a lot of it stems from the fact that the band (Bono more visibly than the rest of the guys and, therefore, more the target) have had the audacity to become successful and actually enjoy their success. I mean, can you believe the nerve? :rolleyes: And they've enjoyed themselves without marital affairs, public feuds, drug overdoses, etc., etc. (not counting Adam's probs with alcohol - that's Rock Star 101). Not many other long-time successful artists have managed that & I think it has a lot to do with the hatred: they are living proof that sometimes good guys DO win at life. That tends to rile up the people who are bitter about their own lives and begrudge anyone else's good fortune.
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That's another good point. No major scandals, drug overdoses etc constantly on TMZ. That doesn't fit the death cult mentality.
 
because they're not Radiohead or Coldplay???

they're a soft target nowadays, what with Bono's preaching about third world debt and so on, people find it hard to deal with hearing about them getting $100m for this deal.

I've seen some horrid comments about them on other forums. although I've pointed out that some other bands would jump at the same opportunity U2 have taken, if they were offered it.

If Apple dumped a Kanye West album on me I would delete or ignore it, I certainly wouldn't waste my time ranting about it.
 
djparky said:
I've seen some horrid comments about them on other forums. although I've pointed out that some other bands would jump at the same opportunity U2 have taken, if they were offered it.
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Yes, they would certainly, and I'm also pretty sure that they won't get half of the media bashing U2 is getting. People are always fast to call U2 hypocrites, but when it comes to criticizing the music instead of the persons behind the music, the media is the real hypocrite. Just put the name "U2" on a product and no matter what it will be bashed and hated.
 
Being a U2 fan is kind of like being an Aaron Sorkin fan. Both have early work that is lesser known but well liked by those who do (Boy for U2, Sports Night for Sorkin), classics that are almost universally adored by critics (for Sorkin, A Few Good Men and The West Wing, for U2, War, UF and JT), under-appreciated works the creators consider "unfinished" with a small cult following (Pop, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip) and a critically-acclaimed, dark, successful reinvention (The Social Network for Sorkin, AB for U2). both have always been polarizing, considered too preachy, optimistic, and earnest. both, though legends, are "uncool" and "for old people." their later work (The Newsroom for Sorkin, HTDAAB/NLOTH/SOI for U2) has had some success but has also been absolutely torn apart by the critics, though largely due to their preconceived notions about U2 or Sorkin, not the actual content itself.

I hope at least one person on this forum knows who Aaron Sorkin is, lol. maybe Apple will put his Steve Jobs movie on all iTunes accounts for free :lol:
 
I have Skype contact that constantly bashes U2 basically because i am a fan of it. He does the same about american football (he is english)

Its alot of banter and bashing

[2014-09-09 11:14:07] Paul Wilde: most comments say they are the 'pre-historic' part of the 'historic' event rofl
[2014-09-09 11:14:22] Martin Thelin: haters allways gonna hate
[2014-09-09 11:20:30] Martin Thelin: they just had the largest tour ever like 2 years ago but sure theyre not relevant etc anymore...
[2014-09-09 11:21:08] Paul Wilde: Oh god no. Do they have to? Hopefully it's at the very end so I can switch it off.
[2014-09-09 11:21:15] Paul Wilde: **** U2! they haven't even been relevant for a decade!
[2014-09-09 11:21:19] Paul Wilde: Ugh, no thanks.
[2014-09-09 11:21:24] Paul Wilde: Man.... if all the hype of a mysterious building and all of that secrecy is a.... stage for U2.... im so disappointed.
[2014-09-09 11:21:34] Martin Thelin: haters gonna hate
[2014-09-09 11:21:36] Paul Wilde: Is U2 really this important? How many people's buying decisions will be swayed by this?
[2014-09-09 11:21:41] Paul Wilde: Im a liberal democrat and iHate Bono.
[2014-09-09 11:21:55] Paul Wilde: those are the top comments
[2014-09-09 11:21:58] Paul Wilde: highest rated ones
[2014-09-09 11:22:12] Paul Wilde: MacRumors Forums - View Single Post - U2 Said to Play 'Significant Part' in Tomorrow's Apple Event
[2014-09-09 11:22:13] Paul Wilde: rofl
[2014-09-09 11:22:35] Martin Thelin: theyre comments are irrelevant
[2014-09-09 11:22:46] Paul Wilde: if the new album comes on the iPhone/ipad I pray it can be deleted.

[2014-09-10 11:16:33] Paul Wilde: U2 have been shit since Joshua Tree according to most
[2014-09-10 11:16:51] Martin Thelin: right thats because Achtung Baby is their best album
[2014-09-10 11:17:00] Martin Thelin: Zoroopa is great too
[2014-09-10 11:17:08] Paul Wilde: U2 is dad music
[2014-09-10 11:17:09] Martin Thelin: and All that you cant leave behind is solid too
[2014-09-10 11:18:03] Martin Thelin: i liked NLOTH too
[2014-09-10 11:18:22] Martin Thelin: How to dismantle.. has some good songs but overall its too top heavy
[2014-09-10 11:18:34] Paul Wilde: so ur a fanboy
[2014-09-10 11:18:37] Paul Wilde: basically
[2014-09-10 11:18:44] Martin Thelin: yes im a fan of U2
[2014-09-10 11:19:06] Martin Thelin: dont think that has suprised anyone.. :p
[2014-09-10 11:22:38] Paul Wilde: no

[2014-09-11 13:10:54] Paul Wilde: U2 are basically sellouts
[2014-09-11 13:12:10] Martin Thelin: 99% of bands are basically sellouts
[2014-09-11 13:12:30] Paul Wilde: how much did Apple pay U2?
[2014-09-11 13:12:48] Martin Thelin: how would i know
[2014-09-11 13:16:15] Martin Thelin: $100
[2014-09-11 13:22:10] Paul Wilde: probably like $50 million or so
[2014-09-11 13:22:34] Martin Thelin: no it was $100
[2014-09-11 13:22:42] Paul Wilde: how do you know
[2014-09-11 13:22:51] Martin Thelin: just read it
[2014-09-11 13:23:21] Paul Wilde: U2 surprise-release of their new album – for free – last night for iTunes’ 500 million customers globally could be read as a band was no longer certain of their place in the paid music market and so chose to hide behind a marketing gimmick
[2014-09-11 13:25:32] Martin Thelin: it certanly is a marketing gimmick
[2014-09-11 13:25:36] Martin Thelin: no doubt
[2014-09-11 13:26:40] Martin Thelin: probably do widen there fanbase by giving it out for free people will curious and check it out
[2014-09-11 13:27:01] Martin Thelin: even if just 10% of itunes users likes it its 5 million new fans
[2014-09-11 13:27:35] Martin Thelin: that will check out the back catalogue etc
[2014-09-11 13:28:04] Martin Thelin: a very smart "stunt" to pull before a planned world tour too

After doing the math, $100M for 500M albums means Apple paid about 20 cents per album.

It’s official. U2 albums are shitty and cheap.
[2014-09-12 21:09:39] Paul Wilde: U2 album downloaded 2 million times
[2014-09-12 21:11:36] Paul Wilde: includes iOS/iTunes that are set to automatically download albums/songs
[2014-09-12 21:11:48] Paul Wilde: so maybe only like 20,000 of those 2 million actually wanted to hear it
[2014-09-12 21:52:04] Paul Wilde: GIF keyboards are coming to iOS 8 because Nicolas Cage GIFs are better than words | The Verge
[2014-09-12 21:52:06] Paul Wilde: getting this app?
[2014-09-12 22:31:33] Martin Thelin: thats why theyre enitre backcatalogue is charting worldwide?
[2014-09-12 22:31:47] Paul Wilde: it is?
[2014-09-12 22:31:58] Martin Thelin: yes
[2014-09-12 22:32:22] Martin Thelin: Worldwide iTunes Performance
[2014-09-12 22:34:30] Martin Thelin: http://kworb.net/aww/
[2014-09-12 22:35:16] Paul Wilde: they are still shit
[2014-09-12 22:35:27] Martin Thelin: cool
[2014-09-12 22:35:45] Paul Wilde: maybe everyone was disappointed with this crap album and bought the album/songs from the 80s when they were actually good?
[2014-09-12 22:36:00] Martin Thelin: mmm
[2014-09-12 22:36:06] Martin Thelin: or
[2014-09-12 22:36:15] Martin Thelin: maybe they liked it and got curious for more
[2014-09-12 22:36:25] Paul Wilde: is it your favourite U2 album?
[2014-09-12 22:36:28] Martin Thelin: no
[2014-09-12 22:36:34] Paul Wilde: least favourite?
[2014-09-12 22:36:37] Martin Thelin: no
[2014-09-12 22:36:44] Paul Wilde: 2nd favourite?
[2014-09-12 22:36:46] Martin Thelin: no
[2014-09-12 22:36:50] Paul Wilde: 3rd favourite?
[2014-09-12 22:37:03] Martin Thelin: im not gonna rank all there albums
[2014-09-12 22:37:12] Paul Wilde: so basically like 2nd to last favourite
[2014-09-12 22:37:18] Martin Thelin: hmm
[2014-09-12 22:37:20] Martin Thelin: no
[2014-09-12 22:37:30] Martin Thelin: that would be Bomb or something
[2014-09-12 22:38:20] Paul Wilde: The eleven worst songs of 2004.
[2014-09-12 22:38:51] Paul Wilde: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/yeah2_mp3
[2014-09-12 22:39:26] Martin Thelin: thats what you get from being the biggest band you get alot of haters too
[2014-09-12 22:39:36] Paul Wilde: biggest band?
[2014-09-12 22:39:36] Paul Wilde: rofl
[2014-09-12 22:39:44] Martin Thelin: what band is bigger?
[2014-09-12 22:39:51] Paul Wilde: most?
[2014-09-12 22:39:59] Paul Wilde: even One Direction is bigger
[2014-09-12 22:40:04] Martin Thelin: no
[2014-09-12 22:40:23] Paul Wilde: U2 have been irrelevant for years
[2014-09-12 22:40:37] Martin Thelin: your just repeating what haters say
[2014-09-12 22:41:13] Paul Wilde: When was the last time U2 had a hit? Or a flop? Or anything for that matter? Their last major release was in 2000, an album which was so inconsequential that merely labeling it as such bumps it into a lesser category of sucktitude (but just barely, so eat shit). If their faces weren't lit up, nobody would know who they were except for the most diehard U2 fans, and nobody cares what they think.
[2014-09-12 22:41:37] Paul Wilde: what was the last U2 hit?

[2014-09-12 22:41:37] Martin Thelin: copy pasting what some hatrer are writing again
[2014-09-12 22:42:23] Martin Thelin: if you dont like em fine
[2014-09-12 22:42:30] Martin Thelin: why do you have to go on about it?
[2014-09-12 22:42:33] Paul Wilde: what was the last U2 hit?
[2014-09-12 22:42:42] Paul Wilde: in the 90s?
[2014-09-12 22:42:45] Martin Thelin: Vertigo?
[2014-09-12 22:43:00] Paul Wilde: so 10 years ago?
[2014-09-12 22:43:17] Martin Thelin: NLOTH didnt have any big hit
[2014-09-12 22:43:32] Paul Wilde: and you question why I say they are irrelevant? :p
[2014-09-12 22:43:49] Paul Wilde: so they've been irrelevant for 10 years
[2014-09-12 22:44:00] Martin Thelin: if music is relevant or not is quite personal
[2014-09-12 22:44:33] Paul Wilde: and they got paid huge cash bags by Apple to force everyone to have their new shitty album to try and be relevant again
[2014-09-12 22:44:36] Martin Thelin: if only hits are relevant then well you have quite shitty taste in music and are only following latest trends
[2014-09-12 22:44:42] Martin Thelin: instead of making up your own taste and mind
[2014-09-12 22:45:09] Martin Thelin: If the album is "shitty" or not is also personal
[2014-09-12 22:45:28] Martin Thelin: why are you going on about U2 if you dont like em?
[2014-09-12 22:47:36] Martin Thelin: and what makes there albums so much more "shitty" than similar bands like Coldplay etc? :p
[2014-09-12 22:47:46] Paul Wilde: well Coldplay actually have hits
[2014-09-12 22:47:56] Martin Thelin: is only hits good music?
[2014-09-12 22:48:09] Paul Wilde: well hits are usually good songs
[2014-09-12 22:48:20] Paul Wilde: depends on the genre and your taste of course
[2014-09-12 22:48:27] Martin Thelin: if you only like hits you have poor taste in music
[2014-09-12 22:48:58] Paul Wilde: that's true
[2014-09-12 22:49:03] Paul Wilde: but U2 haven't had a single one in 10 years?
[2014-09-12 22:49:32] Paul Wilde: and yet you call them the "biggest band in the world"? :p
[2014-09-12 22:49:36] Martin Thelin: yes
[2014-09-12 22:49:39] Paul Wilde: you need to actually have recent hits to hold that title
[2014-09-12 22:49:52] Paul Wilde: I'd say One Direction is one of the biggest bands in the world atm
[2014-09-12 22:50:00] Paul Wilde: like 20 times more than U2

[2014-09-12 22:52:48] Paul Wilde: more known
[2014-09-12 22:53:14] Paul Wilde: a lot of teenagers didn't know who U2 were
[2014-09-12 22:53:22] Paul Wilde: when it shown up in their iPhone etc
[2014-09-12 22:53:30] Paul Wilde: but I bet they know who The Beatles are
[2014-09-12 22:53:38] Martin Thelin: i dunno
[2014-09-12 22:53:45] Martin Thelin: probably pretty equal or summin
[2014-09-12 22:53:50] Paul Wilde: errr
[2014-09-12 22:53:51] Paul Wilde: no
[2014-09-12 22:53:57] Martin Thelin: err k
[2014-09-12 22:54:34] Martin Thelin: you basically dont like em out of spite
[2014-09-12 22:54:41] Martin Thelin: because im a fan of them?
[2014-09-12 22:55:56] Paul Wilde: rofl
[2014-09-12 22:55:59] Paul Wilde: just asked my siste
[2014-09-12 22:56:00] Paul Wilde: sister
[2014-09-12 22:56:09] Paul Wilde: "heard of The Beatles?"
[2014-09-12 22:56:10] Paul Wilde: she said yes
[2014-09-12 22:56:16] Paul Wilde: "heard of U2?"
[2014-09-12 22:56:26] Paul Wilde: "yes they shown up on my phone, thats how I know of them"
[2014-09-12 22:56:34] Paul Wilde: so yes U2 are irrelevant :p
[2014-09-12 22:56:40] Martin Thelin: your just making shit up
[2014-09-12 22:56:48] Paul Wilde: I'm honestly not
[2014-09-12 22:56:54] Martin Thelin: cool story
[2014-09-12 22:56:55] Paul Wilde: I just asked her
[2014-09-12 22:57:04] Paul Wilde: she's 18 btw
[2014-09-12 22:57:23] Paul Wilde: and has never heard of U2
[2014-09-12 22:57:23] Paul Wilde: rofl

[2014-09-13 20:09:33] Paul Wilde: love ya
[2014-09-13 20:09:38] Paul Wilde: long time
[2014-09-13 20:10:06] Paul Wilde: Who is U2?
[2014-09-13 20:11:57] Martin Thelin: shows how many people are stupid
[2014-09-13 20:12:03] Paul Wilde: well
[2014-09-13 20:12:09] Paul Wilde: they are mainly teens
[2014-09-13 20:12:21] Paul Wilde: so teens won't know who U2 are as they've been out of the picture for at least 10 years
[2014-09-13 20:12:37] Martin Thelin: teens are usually clueless in general
[2014-09-13 20:12:40] Martin Thelin: so who cares


[20:13:32] Paul Wilde: Remove iTunes gift album "Songs of Innocence" from your iTunes music library and purchases
[20:13:32] Paul Wilde: lololol
[20:13:51] Paul Wilde: LÖÖÖÖÖÖL
[20:16:03] Martin Thelin: whats lol about it? except people are stupid and dont know how to do shit?
[20:21:09] Paul Wilde: err
[20:21:14] Paul Wilde: you realise it was impossible to delete right?
[20:21:28] Martin Thelin: err no
[20:22:06] Paul Wilde: Apple releases one-click tool to delete the U2 album you didn't want | The Verge
[20:22:07] Paul Wilde: rofl
[20:22:11] Paul Wilde: "it's a beautiful day"
[20:22:29] Paul Wilde: How to Dismantle an Apple Bomb
All That You Can Leave Behind
No MP3s on the Horizon
Stuck in a Playlist You Can't Get Out Of
With or Without U2
[20:23:10] Martin Thelin: you simply love to annoy people?
[20:23:24] Paul Wilde: mate
[20:25:33] Martin Thelin: endless copy pasting of U2 bashing because im a fan of them
[20:25:35] Martin Thelin: ??
[20:25:52] Paul Wilde: just a bit of banter
[20:25:59] Martin Thelin: bit of banter?
[20:26:06] Paul Wilde: ye
[20:26:11] Martin Thelin: you bash and copy paste bashing all the time... :p
[20:26:23] Paul Wilde: its just funny though
[20:26:27] Paul Wilde: how hated that album is lol
[20:26:34] Martin Thelin: its not hated
[20:26:42] Martin Thelin: and your basically a c*nt?
[20:26:43] Paul Wilde: U2 haven't done themselves any favours by how they released this album
[20:26:59] Paul Wilde: if they had released it normally I wouldn't bash it
[20:27:07] Paul Wilde: but because they basically sold out
[20:27:12] Paul Wilde: and everyone hates it
[20:27:15] Paul Wilde: its just funny
[20:27:21] Martin Thelin: zzz
[20:27:38] Martin Thelin: haters gonna hate no matter what they do
[20:27:41] Martin Thelin: you realize that?
[20:28:33] Paul Wilde: rite
[20:28:56] Martin Thelin: Coldplays latest 2 albums are more "hated" than this one
[20:29:15] Paul Wilde: no?
[20:29:20] Martin Thelin: yes
[20:29:26] Paul Wilde: how
[20:29:30] Paul Wilde: why
[20:29:35] Martin Thelin: lower ratings etc
[20:29:58] Paul Wilde: this is the most hated album in history I'm sure
[20:30:06] Martin Thelin: no its not
[20:30:20] Paul Wilde: pretty sure it is
[20:30:20] Martin Thelin: internet haters are just loud
[20:30:26] Paul Wilde: as it's forced down peoples throats so they hate it
[20:31:00] Paul Wilde: i asked my dad yesterday if he downloaded the album
[20:31:01] Martin Thelin: i wouldnt hate on an album if it was released for free by another band
[20:31:03] Paul Wilde: he said no U2 are crap
[20:31:11] Martin Thelin: ok
[20:31:12] Martin Thelin: and?
[20:31:24] Paul Wilde: and he likes Bruce Springsteen
[20:31:27] Martin Thelin: not everyone likes U2
[20:31:46] Paul Wilde: hardly anyone does
[20:31:53] Martin Thelin: cool
[20:31:57] Paul Wilde: but i digress
[20:32:47] Martin Thelin: they have record breaking tours everytime, has sold nearly 200 million albums, won 22 grammys etc etc but hardly anyone likes em
[20:32:48] Martin Thelin: k
[20:34:23] Paul Wilde: my dad said they were good in the 80s
[20:34:32] Paul Wilde: then turned crap in the 90s and 00s
[20:34:43] Martin Thelin: cool
[20:34:50] Paul Wilde: do you agree with that
[20:34:55] Martin Thelin: no
[20:34:59] Paul Wilde: https://twitter.com/JonyIveParody/status/511582877788934145
[20:35:05] Paul Wilde: do you think they've gotten better?
[20:35:09] Martin Thelin: my fav album is from 1991
[20:37:21] Paul Wilde: exactly
[20:37:35] Martin Thelin: yeah exactly?
[20:40:15] Martin Thelin: U2 Back Catalog Sees Massive Sales Bump After 'Songs of Innocence' | Rolling Stone
[20:40:28] Martin Thelin: obviously everyone hated it so much they wanted to pay for more
[20:43:15] Paul Wilde: doesn't mean U2 is good though
[20:43:23] Paul Wilde: just means they are sellouts
[20:43:27] Martin Thelin: k
[20:43:51] Martin Thelin: why do i even bother with you
[20:43:56] Martin Thelin: you are basically a c*nt
[20:44:15] Paul Wilde: do you think U2 approached Apple
[20:44:18] Paul Wilde: or Apple approached U2?
[20:44:23] Martin Thelin: i dont know
[20:44:25] Martin Thelin: i dont care
[20:45:12] Martin Thelin: as a fan your happy getting new music from a band you like
[20:46:27] Paul Wilde: I think U2 would of approached Apple
[20:46:38] Paul Wilde: as Apple would of surely gotten a more modern artist?
 
It's not just Bono either, U2 are not the most sophisticated musicians and the level of success achieved for what you'll hear denigrated as platitudinous anthems or simple arpegiated guitar lines irritates people. If you don't get swept up in the fact that they are far more than the sum of their parts, you probably don't see the appeal beyond the hooks of singles.
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This is an underrated aspect of it. Most of my musician friends roll their eyes at U2 since "their songs are so basic" and then proceed to lecture me about a hundred little-known singer-songwriters who can REALLY play, man. It really sticks in the craw of a lot of music types who've toiled rehearsing for hours that U2 were untrained "amateurs" (as if they somehow haven't spent years working on their craft) who became the biggest band in the world.
 
Unfortunately, South Park made it Cool to Hate Bono.

South Park has a lot to answer for!!!!!

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U2 have gone through amazing highs and lows in their career as far as the public is concerned.
Rattle and Hum was canned
They brought back Achtung Baby which brought them back.
Pop was canned
They brought out the Best of Album and Sweetest Thing brought them back.
MOS was canned
In the end, it is all about the music.
U2 need a hit single.
There are no real hits on Songs of Innocence.

If U2 can produce a hit song again, all will be forgiven.
If not they will continue to be yesterday’s music played for yesterday’s people (that’s us)
Today’s youth will laugh at them in the same way we laughed at Bing Crosby music.
 
If they are so into staying relevant they should hire a strong PR/Image Consultants. Music is more about an "image" more than ever.

All the cool, loved people are more personalities than accomplished musicians or artists.

But the good thing here is 7 days and still no Bono hyprebole. minimal media interaction. This is right step in resurrecting the image. Bono's passion is half the problem, which is so tragic.
 
The Apple thing only substantiates that image..

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What would the younger Bono of Boy and War think of the older Bono?

He might think he was a bit of a sellout and a cock as well.
 
BVS said:
"You're still doing this?! Sweet!

What do you mean MTV is dead?"

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you can reach but you can't grab it
you can't hold it control it you can't bag it
you can push but you can't direct it
circulate regulate oh no you cannot connect it


Every American I know who grew up in in the eighties has a little hole in their heart for what happened to MTV. It’s similar to the way one might remember a clever acquaintance who fell to addiction. They shake their heads, bite their knuckles and look wistful. Whether the thing MTV was hooked on was reality programming itself or the ratings boost it provided, I can’t say, but lost it is.

it's not a trick... you can't learn it
it's the way you don't pay that's okey 'cause you can't earn it

You seem to be missing the point with your question, MTV et al, were never alive, they were all advertising gimmicks, that took the focus away from live music performances towards 'looking good on film and playing pre-packaged dreck'.

They're all the same, and all just as bad. Music is a living artform, with cultural value, and yes economic value too, but it's primarily a cultural thing.

It was always a joke, and a terrible one, I just hope the various large players in the industry don't do the same to the internet, oh wait, Youtube Music Awards, and Vimeo, so it's now the same game of sell the same old sawdust, only online, I can't wait for them to collapse.

take these hands they're good for nothing
you know this hands have never worked a day
take these boots they're going nowhere
you know these boots they don't want to stray
you got my head filled with songs
you got my shoelaces undone
take my shirt go on take it off me
you can tear it up
if you can tie me down

It’s come full circle, as the indie bands of today are using the same low-budget filming techniques, some for budgetary reasons and others to hearken back to the same shared nostalgia of the MTV that is dead and gone. If there had never been an MTV, there wouldn’t be a generation of musicians who think setting their songs to tiny movies is a worthwhile marketing effort. After all, video wasn’t a new idea when MTV came around. It is only because these same musicians were watching MTV while they played with Transformers and ripped the heads off their Barbie dolls that the Britneys and Kanyes create videos costing a million dollars a pop. And the bloggers posting the low-budget masterpieces to their little blogs are like the video jockeys of yesteryear: unpolished, unprofessional. We love them because they’re fans first, in it for the love of the music. So it is that while the zombie of MTV continues to ravish the flesh of washed out celebrities in a never-ceasing voyeurism, its spirit lives on. MTV is the Phoenix, rising from the ashes as Youtube and Vimeo. MTV is the Ouroboros. She has shed her mythical skin and we have emerged, with our own cameras and our own blogs and our own video channels. We no longer need the VJs, we have become the VJs. MTV is dead, long live MTV!

take the colours of my imagination
take the scent hanging in the air
take this tangle of a coversation
and turn it into your own prayer
with my fingers as you want them
with my nails in your side
with my teeth at your back
and my tongue to tell you the sweetest lies

You know when MTV is dead when people like Justin Bieber win a award when they are in a category with Eminem.

you know you're chewing bubblegum
you know what that is but you still want some
you just can't get enough of that lovie dovie stuff
 
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