Lancemc
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U2DMfan said:Is Joe Pesci a better actor than Sean Penn?
Yes.
U2DMfan said:Is Joe Pesci a better actor than Sean Penn?
MsMofoGone said:The worst movie was definitely "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" ... as Penn played a student who did nothing but constantly get stoned with other friends. The dumbest role ever.
MsMofoGone said:^ Actually, it's not the kind of movie to use as a 'role model' for our own young children to grow up attempting to succeed in doing. The fact that they were only 'starting-out' in their Freshman year is rather pathetic.
That movie was about 2 things ... 'who could have a good time with whom' ... or 'who could use drugs and stay wasted'... that was the whole theme/plot (nothing else) That ridiculous and meaningless plot was not exactly the BEST way to teach our children about 'right and wrong'.
Lancemc said:I'm totally going to use Boogie Nights to teach my children all the moral values they'll need to know.
It'll be the Sunday morning movie.
namkcuR said:
I thought you hated children(per the 'High School Musical 2' thread)...
namkcuR said:I thought you hated children(per the 'High School Musical 2' thread)...
Originally posted by LemonMacPhisto
If you're letting a younger child watch this in the first place, you're doing something wrong.
MsMofoGone said:
What ?? I was simply explaining why I thought that 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' was indeed Penn's worst movie he could have ever starred in.
The 'role model' equasion came into play when I mentioned Penn's actual movie character, Spicoli ... and how his character does try to 'set an example' or 'standard' for us, as parents, to follow with 'our own young children' ... by saying 'it's alright to get stoned every single moment' ??
You know, those actors/actresses in that movie were portraying such a young age (ex: just starting high school) although, that's NOT the way they should have been exposed as beginning their schooling of freshman year. It just was NOT very realistic in terms of the 1980's generation, because most high schoolers during that era, didn't 'make an attempt' with drugs at all or if possibly they might have ... it was NOT until a later time in their life. (college years)
So to me, Penn's role (and quite a few others in that movie) 'demonstrated' how 'young children' (and by young children, I should have specified "our kids starting high school" ... or maybe I should have said "young teenagers") should be taught by their parents to 'grow up' in high school now ??
That movie did much more harm than good ... as those situations that were supposedly happening ... just were NOT like that for real, during the 1980's high school years.
That is why that's NOT respectfully the way those people should have been portrayed in the movie. As that 'ridiculous and meaningless plot' was not exactly the BEST way to teach our children about 'right and wrong' " ... because, it is 'us' as parents who had seen that movie ... and had that plot come across to us as what happened during our years in high school. So, we can 'pass that off' as a 'realistic encounter' for our children/kids to follow during their high school years ??
Truthfully, Penn fits in that worst movie concept because of his dumb role. Without question, something he should have turned down in his acting career.![]()
Yes indeed, another 'venture' in this movie that was NOT realistic for the 80's generation. You could say that this should have been a 90's made movie. Then I would consider it more realistic to the changing times of society.Originally posted by LemonMacPhisto
What about Jennifer Jason Leigh's depressing abortion subplot?
OK ... I'll give you this one. This was GREAT to see happen. Something that actually made sense.Originally posted by LemonMacPhisto
And I do remember Spicoli eventually trying to do well in school and his heart-to-heart moments with Mr. Hand.
Honestly, I don't care about whether or not he EVER had an Oscar-winning performance. I was only talking about why I thought that his role in that particular movie was DUMB !! You know, in the movie "Bad Boys" ... he did a much better job in his role character. The movie plot was indeed realistic ... and to also mention, he learned from his mistakes of criminal behavior. When he was sentenced to that correctional facility ... it made him a better person in the end.Originally posted by LemonMacPhisto
Sure it's not setting a great example for the youth of America, but like I said, it's a Teen Sex Comedy. Penn might not have had some Oscar-winning performance in this movie, but who really cares? And if you do, I don't think you should, but that's just me.
You're gonna give me an example with the character of Charles Jefferson ??Originally posted by LemonMacPhisto
People also forget other now-serious actor Forest Whitaker was in Fast Times, too. It's not like he's ashamed of being in it.
MsMofoGone said:You're gonna give me an example with the character of Charles Jefferson ??I could see your point here (serious actor) if you would have mentioned Ray Walston.
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MsMofoGone said:
What ?? I was simply explaining why I thought that 'Fast Times at Ridgemont High' was indeed Penn's worst movie he could have ever starred in.
The 'role model' equasion came into play when I mentioned Penn's actual movie character, Spicoli ... and how his character does try to 'set an example' or 'standard' for us, as parents, to follow with 'our own young children' ... by saying 'it's alright to get stoned every single moment' ??
You know, those actors/actresses in that movie were portraying such a young age (ex: just starting high school) although, that's NOT the way they should have been exposed as beginning their schooling of freshman year. It just was NOT very realistic in terms of the 1980's generation, because most high schoolers during that era, didn't 'make an attempt' with drugs at all or if possibly they might have ... it was NOT until a later time in their life. (college years)
So to me, Penn's role (and quite a few others in that movie) 'demonstrated' how 'young children' (and by young children, I should have specified "our kids starting high school" ... or maybe I should have said "young teenagers") should be taught by their parents to 'grow up' in high school now ??
That movie did much more harm than good ... as those situations that were supposedly happening ... just were NOT like that for real, during the 1980's high school years.
That is why that's NOT respectfully the way those people should have been portrayed in the movie. As that 'ridiculous and meaningless plot' was not exactly the BEST way to teach our children about 'right and wrong' " ... because, it is 'us' as parents who had seen that movie ... and had that plot come across to us as what happened during our years in high school. So, we can 'pass that off' as a 'realistic encounter' for our children/kids to follow during their high school years ??
Truthfully, Penn fits in that worst movie concept because of his dumb role. Without question, something he should have turned down in his acting career.![]()
No spoken words said:I grew up in the 80's and while this film may or may not represent my teenaged years, perhaps it accurately caught teenage life in SoCal? And even if it did not, it's a comedy, not a documentary.