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I don't think that's the consensus among longtime fans, though? From what I'm seeing many think it's among her best if not her absolute best.

Of course, I don't see eye to eye with a lot of them either, as I was disappointed by How I'm Feeling Now, but I love Sucker (consensus seems to be this is her worst along with Crash), and my favorite is Charli.
 
Yeah - I yelled at my phone in my car yesterday to play it, and that's the one it played. I actually had no idea of the history of the track - was that one^ the first official release of it by Joni? Or is the one on Clouds (her second album?) considered the definitive version? The wiki page makes it confusing.
I mean yes, the original Clouds version is the "standard" but I think there are numerous live versions across her career as well. And many of her early songs were made famous by other, more popular artists covering them (Judy Collins in this case). What makes the 2000 version so powerful it's that the lyrics, which seem to be more from the perspective of an old person, are now being sung by someone who has all the experience.

Of course, some prefer the acoustic guitar version over the one with the orchestra.
 
I don't think that's the consensus among longtime fans, though? From what I'm seeing many think it's among her best if not her absolute best.

I be curious to know that. I don't necessarily think RYM is a good reflection of an album's fanbase, but from the writing style the vast majority of reviews for Brat seem to be from adolescents. I doubt many of them have a point of reference for her discography.
 
So about a month ago now I saw Colin Hay. I of course knew he was from Men at Work, but had never had an interest in them or him beyond the hits I knew from Gold 104. I had seen Ashley post about him a bunch of times, and sing his praises. And then last year, I went on a few dates with a girl who was a big fan. We were on a date one night and comparing playlists we’d made, and she had a sad one, and I saw a song title on there that piqued my interest… “I Just Don’t Think I’ll Ever Get Over You”. Now having gone through my first breakup recently, and grieving the loss of a beautiful seven-year relationship, with a person with whom I still have a great deal of care and affection for, that song title spoke to me. I listened to the song and was deeply moved by it, and its melancholy tone… it’s not a sad song at its core, it’s just reflective. Has Nick Drake vibes. There’s some humour to it as well. (Doing some research I found out that he is singing to alcohol, having been an alcoholic in the past and sober for decades.)

Anyhoo, I saw that he was playing at Hamer Hall here in Melbourne, a large concert hall, with his band, and I got a ticket. Hearing him, I didn’t realise just how Scottish he is, given Men at Work are such a beloved Aussie band. But that’s probably part of their deceit, a bit, I mean you look at Down Under and it’s pretty clearly a song written from an outsider’s perspective. Funny how we’ve all grown to love it as a classic Aussie track.

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Hit the stage with a few Men at Work songs I didn’t recognise, then a cover of I Just Don’t Know What to Do with Myself. I realised pretty quickly that this man is an absolutely incredible frontman. His gently self-deprecating banter in between songs is just so good. Stories from his life, his past band, where he went after Men at Work ended, stories from a life of music-making. He’s such a delight and so funny, absolutely added heaps to the value for money. I love when artists can create an overall narrative when they play a live set, and he’s a master.

His solo tracks are also really fucking good. I’ve come away from the concert feeling that there is a lot more to his music and Men at Work’s music than Down Under. Come Tumblin’ Down is a good pop track, Can’t Take This Town has some bite, Beautiful World is gorgeous, as is The Sea of Always and Next Year People and Now and the Evermore, which is quite recent I think. Frozen Fields of Snow was probably my favourite track that I didn’t already know, the lyrics paint an awesome picture. For Melbourne Song, he brought out his sister to sing with him, which was just lovely. His lyrics are simple, but also portray a life well-lived, wisdom. They’re funny, too. As for Men at Work songs, Down By the Sea was the highlight of songs I didn’t already know, and It’s a Mistake has become a very fast new favourite. What a track that is: an emotional, yearning jangly guitar line, engaging third-person lyrics. I love his vocals, too, they’ve got a lot of feeling to them… they’re still in majestic shape, he still sounds very much like himself and can still really carry long notes despite his age.

After Melbourne Song, a cover of Waterloo Sunset, which he introduces as one of the greatest pop songs ever written. I didn’t know it, I don’t think, and yeah, it’s stunning. Straight on to my ‘Happy’ playlist. Love Ray Davies’ soft vocals on the original. He’s great at covers, too. There was a song called Driving with the Brakes On that I adored, it’s by Del Amitri, I didn’t know them, but his cover was fantastic and the original is too. Great melancholy track.

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His wife, Cecilia Noël, is in the band, he tells a great story of meeting her, and her band, The Wild Clams. They do a cover of her track, Perro Callejero. Great fun.

Who Can it Be Now, Overkill and Down Under back to back to back is a bloody delight. Who Can it Be Now is just so good, that fucking sax man, and Overkill is great too.

He closes with Waiting for My Real Life to Begin, another track accompanied by a beautiful story full of wisdom. I have to give a special shout-out to this track, and more so I Just Don’t Think I’ll Ever Get Over You. That track was played full band (by the way, his whole band is South American, might even be just Peruvian), which I felt detracted a little from what I love of the song, but in another sense perhaps the sheer intimacy of the studio version would have been lost in a big hall. Still, it was very special to hear and sing along after how hard I’ve fallen for it. And Real Life was a gorgeous and perfect closer, it’s so wistful and hopeful.

A delightful evening in the company of a delightful man. And I got the setlist at the end!! First setlist I’ve ever gotten.
 
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Glad you had a great time, makes me want to spin my vinyl copy of the first Men At Work. I've got to check out that tune you love as Drake is one of my favorites and I just got out of a 14 year relationship (now in another one). We're still good friends and will always have love for each other but just couldn't make it work through the end and I'm glad we bailed and gave ourselves a second chance (we're late 30s).

Do treat yourself to the new King Gizzard as they're the best live act on the planet. The new one is a stunning blues rock record, very 60s flower power meets early hard rock. You'll love it. The Kings of Australia.
 
Glad you had a great time, makes me want to spin my vinyl copy of the first Men At Work. I've got to check out that tune you love as Drake is one of my favorites and I just got out of a 14 year relationship (now in another one). We're still good friends and will always have love for each other but just couldn't make it work through the end and I'm glad we bailed and gave ourselves a second chance (we're late 30s).

Do treat yourself to the new King Gizzard as they're the best live act on the planet. The new one is a stunning blues rock record, very 60s flower power meets early hard rock. You'll love it. The Kings of Australia.
Keen to hear your thoughts when you do, and sorry to hear about the relationship breakdown. I'm glad for myself too, it's been hard but at 34 after two to three years full of hardship, I feel in a really good place.

I can't get that into King Gizz. Too prolific for me and I'm just not a big enough fan of that psych rock stuff to commit.

I'd love to see Illinoise but can't see it going beyond the US.
 
Tonight, I found an awesome rooftop with an unimpeded 360 view, and watched an incredible sunset. As the red-orange glow grew stronger, "One of These Nights" popped into my head, and I've been playing it for hours now. I know Eagles are hugely maligned, but goddamn, that song is so good, so perfect for that sort of vibe, and now I've got a memory tied to it forever.
 
Tonight, I found an awesome rooftop with an unimpeded 360 view, and watched an incredible sunset. As the red-orange glow grew stronger, "One of These Nights" popped into my head, and I've been playing it for hours now. I know Eagles are hugely maligned, but goddamn, that song is so good, so perfect for that sort of vibe, and now I've got a memory tied to it forever.
It is odd that hating the Eagles is fashionable, but a band like Fleetwood Mac is celebrated for occupying that same soft-rock lane.
 
I'll need to see that for sure. One of America's greatest ever songwriters and one of this century's greatest albums.
Sad to say it was billed as a “strictly limited engagement” and Saturday was the last show.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see it go off Broadway though.
 
It is odd that hating the Eagles is fashionable, but a band like Fleetwood Mac is celebrated for occupying that same soft-rock lane.
Because the latter's art and the former is sludge. More great songs on Rumours alone than the entire Eagles discography imo
 
Folks, I'm in the market for some power ballads. Preferably ones that are a little lovelorn. Songs like "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad", which I think is an outstanding song. The only one in my library that popped into my mind today was "Do I Have to Say the Words?" by Bryan Adams.

(Also, I just looked that song up on Wikipedia, and lo and behold... "The track began life as a different Adams/Vallance composition called "Rescue Me", an unreleased version of which was recorded with producer Steve Lillywhite. "Rescue Me" was a mid-tempo song that Jim Vallance has described as "U2 inspired". The music video was directed by Anton Corbijn." How funny.)
 
If we're talking lovelorn, it's gotta be Every Rose Has Its Thorn.
Yes, this fits the bill really well.

I don't think it's lovelorn, but I'd suggest The Flame by Cheap Trick.
Oh my god I know this song, holy shit. Like, I've heard it a million times. But I had no idea what it was called or who it was by. Great song. But it's not what I thought Cheap Trick sounded like, I thought they were hair metal, and this is just classic pop rock to me.
 
Cheap Trick pre-exists hair metal and are far better than any band from that subgenre; they have 60s pop-rock and early 70s punk influences that you don’t usually see with those others. More in common with Aerosmith.

Of course, pretty boys Robin Zander and Tom Petersson are easy to mistake for the types who would dominate hair metal.

The Flame may have nostalgia status for 80s-90s kids but from a critical/longtime fan perspective it’s not regarded as being on the high level as their first four albums.
 
I am pretty excited, and would absolutely go if they came to Australia. The older I get the more I appreciate that music doesn’t have to just be intellectual, or just be catchy, or just be anything. Oasis exist in the U2 space where the X factor trumps everything else. And some don’t get it. That’s totally ok as well.

There was an energy to Oasis that went beyond their music. The cultural impact was Beatles-esque. The run of productivity at the level of genius from Noel as a songwriter from 1994-1995 hasn’t been matched since.
 
The older I get the more I appreciate that music doesn’t have to just be intellectual, or just be catchy, or just be anything.
Fully agree.

The cultural impact was Beatles-esque. The run of productivity at the level of genius from Noel as a songwriter from 1994-1995 hasn’t been matched since.
Fully disagree.
 
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