david
ONE love, blood, life
Haha oh man.
New Album Discussion 1 - Songs of..... - Unreasonable guitar album
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42 minute mark... our first "america is an idea" drop
david
ONE love, blood, life
Bono has been doing all the talking…
53/54 minute mark - rogan starts going all in on musk/dodge shit about USAID and it's probably the first interesting part of the conversation thus far. bono gets quite silent for the first time as rogan goes on with his bullshit.
david
ONE love, blood, life
Annnd here comes Rogan talking about COVID.
Hewson
Blue Crack Supplier
there is nobody with a bigger "i'm the smrtest man in the room at all times" complex than joe rogan.
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Supplier
I get why he did, I guess? But Rogan, so cringeworthy to do that.
david
ONE love, blood, life
Bono asking about the Zelensky and Trump moment.. Rogan gave such a non answer.
watching this, and watching bono navigate rogan's dumb shit, shows you how he was able to get so many republican politicians to go along with him in the early 2000s
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Supplier
I can think of one, last name starts with a T
david
ONE love, blood, life
This episode hasn’t been horrible though.
david
ONE love, blood, life
Jesus Christ.. Rogan explaining the Sam Kinison bit to Bono was just weird to hear.
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dan_smee
ONE love, blood, life
Bono’s always spoken to anyone about things he believes in, so I’m not going to get annoyed he’s on Rogan - it just feels like an odd choice. When he negotiates with conservatives there’s a noble goal or an outcome he’s aiming for. Why do this? If it’s promo and exposure, he has enough of that. It just feels a really strange thing to do
ferball415
Acrobat
Same: Ryan Tedder.
PookaMacP
War Child
Harsh, but true.
PookaMacP
War Child
I didn't go and haven't watched any clips either. My only experience of it is listening to the version of With or Without You that Bono did on the Late Show, plus the recent EP.
I'll definitely watch the film, although I find Bono's way of talking about his past quite tiring at this stage. I don't know what others thought, but for me the book was far too long and too light on actual insight. Bill Flanagan's portrait in U2 at the End of the World still feels like a much more revealing picture of Bono's personality. And, by way of another comparison, Jarvis Cocker's memoir, Good Pop, Bad Pop, which came out around the same time as Surrender, also feels like a less well polished, and ultimately more interesting, sense of who he really was.
ascender_RS
Refugee
Is the Rogan interview worth listening to? I thought with it being longer form we might get some interesting deviations, but was weighing that against the fact its Joe Rogan asking the questions.
super fly guy
New Yorker
The comments are brutal.
The Apple show was...fine. I'd have to listen to the audio IEM rip again, but it doesn't seem to be portrayed in order. I know the actual show opened with City of Blinding Lights.
Springsteen's Netflix special was literally just a straight run through of the show. I wish they would have done the same here instead of all of the editing.
Springsteen's Netflix special was literally just a straight run through of the show. I wish they would have done the same here instead of all of the editing.
2861U2
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
I’d say no. I listened to the whole thing really just to hear about the new album, but he doesn’t say anything he hasn’t already said about it. Rogan on multiple occasions raves about how much he loves the Ordinary Love performance from Fallon 10 years ago, which was interesting to hear. Other than that, nothing too exciting.
Between the South Park episode and the Apple free album disaster, a lot of people sure seem to have a terrible opinion about Bono/U2 these days.
The comments from the people who actually listened seemed to be more reasonable, I've seen a few like this:
"It pains me to say this, but Bono is very good here. About 1h 20 in so far. He showers both Joe and America (angled towards the right) with flattery and then challenges Doge and cuts to foreign aids from a Christian perspective. Straight up asks Joe how he felt about Trump and Vance bullying Zelensky at a point, highlights Russias bot war of disinformation and calls out European puppet dictators. Of course he does it like a man who loves the smell of his own farts but also with a bit of diplomatic skill. Fair play to the prick."
I think Bono giving a different perspective to what Joe's audience typically hears is a good reason for him to be on. And he does it in such a diplomatic way that he might even change a few minds on things like USAID.
ascender_RS
Refugee
It was such a well thought out, dramatic and paced show that it didn't need the editing they've done IMO. I've just watched the first half but it all felt a bit over-produced compared to the show I saw.
I seem to remember the shows themselves were very well received critically, but a couple of early reviews I saw of the film kind of wondered they they felt the need to mess with what it was. It's a strange decision.
super fly guy
New Yorker
Not a good review.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Bono: Stories of Surrender – A dire 86 minutes of yelping self-mythologising
A dramatisation of the pop star’s memoir, Andrew Dominik’s film is torturous and turgid. But the worst part is Bono’s swollen self-regard
www.telegraph.co.uk
MrsSpringsteen
Blue Crack Supplier
Bono is not going to change any minds on USAID. Obviously the party that he used to be able to persuade and work with no longer exists, and the public sentiment that supports them and that other person does not care about poor or sick or hungry people. In the US or anywhere else.
It certainly is a very complicated subject. On one hand, I sympathize with the millions of US citizens that are currently being crippled by debt. It’s got to be very frustrating hearing about money going to other countries when we have US citizens suffering themselves. They don’t really care or consider how those people in other countries have it way worse then they do and how programs like USAID benefits the world. But then again a lot of those frustrated folks have no problem with the man they voted for taking a 400 million jet from a horrible country that hates women.
It's obviously very much related to current U2/Bono related material, but we're tip toeing close to FYM here. Fine for now but if it devolves into arguing then I'm just gonna move it to FYM.
Argue your hearts out there.
Argue your hearts out there.
Reminds me of the Financial Crash in the UK back in 08/09. It was caused by having far too many public libraries and police officers.It certainly is a very complicated subject. On one hand, I sympathize with the millions of US citizens that are currently being crippled by debt. It’s got to be very frustrating hearing about money going to other countries when we have US citizens suffering themselves. They don’t really care or consider how those people in other countries have it way worse then they do and how programs like USAID benefits the world. But then again a lot of those frustrated folks have no problem with the man they voted for taking a 400 million jet from a horrible country that hates women.
I hope Bono moves on from platitudes in his forthcoming lyrics and moves onto something more abstract
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Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
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