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wolbersu2 said:
I didn't say he should do it for free. It could be on streaming as on physical media as well. And come on, the band belong to the richest artists in the world. They could care a lot more about the people that made them rich.
Same about the Sphere. It's all about grabbing more money. They didn't care that a lot of fans couldn't visite the show. No problem if they would have released something from these shows to the ones who couldn't get to the Sphere. Instead they released something for the Sphere again!! It's really about the contracts and the money. Not about the fans and the music.
It took a long time for people convincing me they do so. But since the Sphere I must say I was wrong.

The boxset for HTDAAB was a step in the right direction with the most wanted release of a new old version of Mercy.
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wolbersu2 said:
Let me guess, you've got an Apple membership, went to the Sphere and the Bono solo shows. Lucky you!
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PopMart from Mexico City was exclusive to HBO.

ZooTV Sydney was on pay per view.

Yes, eventually they saw releases on other formats. But not at first.

They've quite literally been following this format of release for decades. It is not new. It's not even exclusive to U2. It's quite normal.

Severance, a big recent hit for Apple TV, recently released the first season on Blu-ray. Again. Eventually - but not at first. Exclusive to one medium at first.

Rattle and Hum was only released in movie theaters. Why didn't they think of the people who didn't live near theaters that showed the movie?!?!

re: Sphere and his solo shows. His solo shows were toured thought the US and Europe. The Sphere show is unique to the venue. I'm sure in time it'll be released. And they did release the audio. But for now, it's venue only.

Why wasn't lovetown toured around the world?!?!

re: U2 only caring about money and popularity... sorry to say, that's always been the case. It's not new. Your tastes may have changed, but the band has always focused on being big and popular. Switching styles before Achtung Baby was a direct response to critical backlash over Rattle and Hum, not some decision based solely on art. U2 are, and always have been, a commercial band.
 
Almost everything is behind some sort of paywall these days. There are also typically ways to get around those paywalls if you are fastidious and willing to bend the rules. Just because we are fans doesn’t entitle us to anything. They are still in the business of trying to make new fans and discover new sources of revenue because, at the end of the day, this is their job.

Anyway, with Bono’s book coming out in paperback in a revised/remixed fashion and the solo film imminent, hopefully this signals the end of the Songs of Surrender cycle and new album stuff starts coming.
 
I wonder what Bono thinks of Tim Cook bending the knee to Trump, now that PEPFAR and everything else Bono worked for is gone. Not to mention Trump calling Zelensky a dictator and saying that Ukraine started the war.

The Apple shareholders just voted against eliminating DEI, and Cook is already saying that some things might have to change in terms of DEI anyway.

I'm not wanting to be political here, but they're still friends presumably and now Apple gets this Surrender special.
 
MrsSpringsteen said:
I wonder what Bono thinks of Tim Cook bending the knee to Trump, now that PEPFAR and everything else Bono worked for is gone. Not to mention Trump calling Zelensky a dictator and saying that Ukraine started the war.

The Apple shareholders just voted against eliminating DEI, and Cook is already saying that some things might have to change in terms of DEI anyway.

I'm not wanting to be political here, but they're still friends presumably and now Apple gets this Surrender special.
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Yeah hence my Fuck Apple comment. They try to act like they're holier than thou, but then donate to Trump's campaign as a bribe.
 
dan_smee said:
Physical video media is redundant when the digital version offers the same quality and the cost is bundled in with all your other tv and movie entertainment.
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Just like the MP3 vs. FLAC debates with music, it might be worth noting that there IS some quality difference in physical video vs. streaming. Almost all of the main streaming apps do compress the films and shows to an extent, to save on cost and not overkill on sending everyone the highest bitrate possible. Oddly enough, Apple is considered once of the higher quality streamers, as compared to Amazon and such. So at least this film has that going for it!

But yes, while home video would be a great option for us, the convenience of people just subscribing for a monthly amount and having immediate access to it is pretty much the main battle right now. And most of them won't really notice any difference in "4K" streaming quality, especially when a very niche amount will have the "right" Blu-ray player or TV set-up to enjoy it in anything slightly higher.
 
I have to admit, I'm part of the "problem" (though it's not a problem for me). I haven't purchased physical media in over a decade. Streaming works for my lifestyle. Would I have bought Bono's solo show on Blu Ray? No. I'd likely only watch it once or twice. Will I watch it and possibly revisit it if it's right there on my streaming platform that I'm already paying for to watch their other content? Definitely.
 
While I understand that one day an EMP may come and wipe out all ability for me to listen to my favorite music persons, I have weighed that against the convenience of having every song or movie I'd ever possibly need in my pocket, and I've chosen the pocket.
 
Not directly U2 related, but with the news they're working together again, this relatively recent interview with Brian Eno is quite interesting:

 
So we’ve had Bono making a cryptic “more on this and other things soon…”, Edge talking about new music “very soon” and now this.

I think the reality is that a lot of work is probably done, and we MAY be gearing up. We also know they second guess themselves and they could easily stall, rework etc. but logically over the last 8 years they would have bucketloads of material and hopefully can refine it into a nice set of tunes.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘Glorify’ gets released as a single in the spring or the summer.

I recall U2Songs reporting that the band had briefly considered releasing a single at the end of last year (and that this was probably what Edge was referring to when he mentioned new music very soon), before scrapping that plan. But even if it was cancelled, it might have been more the timing/state the song was in, and they may still have fully intended to get it out into the world at a later point.

Glorify was clearly in a finished enough state to be played to the audience at the end of every Sphere show. There was also that U2Songs rumour that the band intended to release it last year before their stint at the sphere ended. And now Duncan Stewart (who produced, mixed and engineered elements of ‘How to Reassemble an Atomic Bomb’) shared that instagram post with what looked like notes for a track called Glorify (… or Scorify).

Considering we’ve not had a proper album in 7+ years, the band has been quite prolific in other ways. If the next album isn’t due until the end of the year (or even later), I could see them releasing a single - possibly Glorify - just to stay productive and maintain a presence.
 
Yeah, an album would for sure be preferable over a single. I think I’m just a little pessimistic given the soundbites we’ve had recently, which imply they only really started recording for the album in earnest when Larry rejoined them at the end of last year.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know how feasible a summer album would be for a band like U2? It seems like they only tend to release albums in the autumn/winter, or in the early spring (and that seems to only happen when an album initially planned for the winter is delayed into early the following year).
 
4 months lead time from first single to album isn’t rare these days. A may/June single could easily happen for an album due in October, and even though it’s u2, if they had the songs down already, there’s nothing to say that 2-3 months of recording isn’t PLENTY to record an album.
 
Yeah, good shout. Blackout was released four months before SoE, in August. If the next album comes out in Oct/Nov instead, I could maybe see a summer lead single in June or July.

I’m wondering if we might get a standalone single ahead of all that (as Glorify was apparently meant to be), but if they feel confident in an album this year, it might not be necessary.
 
I can’t see them distracting from the things they are currently promoting. They are interestingly re-pushing HTDAAB lately, the sphere stuff is still getting a bump, and the Bono doco. It’s out 30 May - there could be something that accompanies it to drum up interest?

I still think they are hedging their bets with Larry. The Eno work and the passengers RSD release seem too connected - I wonder if the concept of Passengers OS2 (sci fi Irish folk?) is being developed as a non-Larry project and U2 stuff is being worked on simultaneously with Jacknife Lee. Depending on Larry’s back, enthusiasm, ability to tour etc we might get one or the other (with Passengers being a bridge to next year when he’s a bit better)
 
Let’s not discount them getting cold feet around their songs not making sense in “The Age of Trump: Part Doo”
 
dan_smee said:
I still think they are hedging their bets with Larry. The Eno work and the passengers RSD release seem too connected - I wonder if the concept of Passengers OS2 (sci fi Irish folk?) is being developed as a non-Larry project and U2 stuff is being worked on simultaneously with Jacknife Lee. Depending on Larry’s back, enthusiasm, ability to tour etc we might get one or the other (with Passengers being a bridge to next year when he’s a bit better)
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This makes a lot of sense to me. It would allow Bono & Edge a creattoutlet without undermining the integrity of U2 as a unit.
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
I hope it's more than just Glorify. I wasn't a huge fan of what I've heard. And that didn't have Bono on vocals, either.
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Headache, I feel like we may just be polar opposites on the U2 fan spectrum. When I heard Glorify (on YT) my initial reaction was "Wow, U2 got their groove back!". I have a hunch if they intend to release it as a single, it'll be a lot more Bono'd-up by then. I'm guessing it'll fall by the wayside though, like how Soon was an almost sort of release thing and North Star and things like that.

Also, leave it to ignorant me to not realize it was probably playing at the Sphere show I went to as I was trying to leave as fast as I possibly could.

I do think album this year with lead single well in advance, but yeah, after the documentary stuff winds down; which likely won't take long. My (not especially bold/profound) prediction: July earliest, August/September more likely. One album because we never get more than that no matter how much "We wrote 5,000 songs" or "We feasibly have 70 albums we could make" talk they dish out.

Passengers 2 I think is still a pipe-dream. The Eno stuff may lead to a couple ideas that get built-upon by the band as a whole and end up on the album. There'll be some holdover Tedder BS. There'll be some Jacknife Lee songs. There'll be some cringe political lyrics that got shoehorned in after last November. They've probably got Lillywhite at the ready to play closer again and we'll have some hodgepodge of random material that maybe once had a great thematic idea, but got derailed after working on it for 6+ years but they'll still sell it as a "cohesive" album. Basically, I'm not expecting anything better than Songs of Experience part 2, but of course without the "Songs of" name because they're done with that era :LOL:

Anyway, all that to say I'm setting my expectations low so that I'm hopefully pleasantly surprised.
 
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