New Album Discussion 1 - Songs of..... - Unreasonable guitar album

[Registered Dude]

from Duncan Stewart's instagram.. check out bottom of image. Glorify lives? Stewart has worked with u2 for the last few years..

 

[Registered Dude]

also, Fuck you Duncan!

 

[mikal]

What is Glorify?

 

[JamietheEdgefan]

What is Glorify?

This was played at the end of each Sphere performance. U2songs claims it’s an unreleased U2 song (in spite of having a different singer), and in any case, it’s certainly an unreleased song, and Bono and Edge would sing along to it whilst it was playing over the PA system (flimsy evidence, but it felt like it was a song they were very familiar with).

 

[The John Tree]

also, Fuck you Duncan!

Seems to be written on the back of Larry's request to take some PTO.

 

[JamietheEdgefan]

also, Fuck you Duncan!

The big question now is whether this is the album title or simply the lead single.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

jokes on all of you

scorify​

transitive verb​

sco·ri·fy
-ˌfī

-ed/-ing/-es
: to reduce to scoria : to subject to scorification

 

[lazarus]

Are we sure it isn’t “scrotify”?

 

[U2387]

I'll say that it is interesting hearing some of these again years later, after trying my hand at songwriting in that time since.

I'll throw my perspective out there in saying that some of these jam sessions do sound pretty cool. But that said, it's worth keeping in mind that most of these clips come about before the million decisions that come in finalizing a track into a 3-8 minute song. Take the Magnificent clip, for example. The tribal-sounding drums and Edge's unused guitar part are definitely standouts and seem to have a pretty interesting mix going on. That said, we don't hear are the attempts to apply a song structure or lyric on top of it. So I can't really get behind an idea that this instrumental should have automatically made the final version. It's quite possible the band and producers beat themselves up trying to make that or other sounds "work" and make an album. But if it's not coming naturally, you take stuff out or put other stuff in, and try to get something going where it is a listenable product. And that's before you even consider mixing and mastering!

Now take the Unknown Caller chorus. I don't disagree that the toplining Bono's trying to do in the clip does sound like a better direction than the final product. And while I don't hate that final chorus like some other fans do, it is a bit awkward to say the least. But again, while I do think there was potentially other ways to go about it to make it a truly epic U2 song, I can also imagine Bono or Edge struggling to find the right words to put in a better melody. Or coming back to the song with a different chorus and thinking "This just doesn't work." It doesn't necessarily make me think the final chorus is great or the best one possible, but I can sympathize with the thought process behind it a bit more.

That and it's really not hard at all for most musicians or bands to throw out terrific sounding instrumentals all day. Even for home-grown musicians that can't afford an engineer or producer, you can play around with a guitar or DAW program - then just find a chord progression, some presets that sound nice, and have something that sounds pretty interesting going in minutes. The real struggle is turning it into an arrangement that works... AND, at least in the case of acts like this one, coming up with a decent vocal/lyric over it. Moment of Surrender sounds like it was a song that just worked for everyone right away. But 99 percent of the time, it doesn't work that way!

But yeah, that's sort of my thinking. While the band (or fans) can second guess all day on these things, the clips or initial recordings do give a great insight as to how things came about. But it can't really show a firm path to what was missed exactly or what should have somehow happened. It's fun to speculate, but I'd probably leave it that!

Thank you! Appreciate the insight you have as a songwriter!

 

[AndrewCowley]

Honestly I’m becoming skeptical on whether we will see new material. I mean we are how many years on now?

Touring is obviously where the money is these days. Would not surprise me if they shelved album plans, retooled the Sphere setlist and show into sonething compatible with normal stadiums and went out on the road.

Am really not seeing the point of an album. Chances are they release an album and tour per the above anyway.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

 

[david]

Oh cool!

 

[phanan]

Of course it's on Apple

 

[Hewson]

Of course it's on Apple

Bono is good friends with Tim Apple.

 

[BEAL]

I hope the movie is automatically downloaded to our tvs

 

[The John Tree]

 

[mikal]

I wonder if Bono and Tim DonatetoTrump will touch fingers right before this goes live.

 

[wolbersu2]

Of course it's on Apple

F*ck Apple!!! Why not available for everyone? I did not see Kiss the Future too because of streaming on platforms I don't have.

I will order them on the black market on illegal blurays...
The band has sold it's soul to the big business. But that was clear to us since their bad managment.

 

[The John Tree]

F*ck Apple!!! Why not available for everyone? I did not see Kiss the Future too because of streaming on platforms I don't have.

I will order them on the black market on illegal blurays...
The band has sold it's soul to the big business. But that was clear to us since their bad managment.

How exactly do you want them to do that? Bono's not going to foot the bill to film a live performance, have it filmed, edited, treated, mixed, etc., just to put it out on YouTube.

It was either going to be Apple or Netflix or HBO or Prime or Paramount or any of the other major streaming platforms because they ultimately pay for the production.

 

[MattD]

Bono and Apple decide take it a step further by forcing everyone to watch the documentary

 

[lazarus]

How exactly do you want them to do that? Bono's not going to foot the bill to film a live performance, have it filmed, edited, treated, mixed, etc., just to put it out on YouTube.

It was either going to be Apple or Netflix or HBO or Prime or Paramount or any of the other major streaming platforms because they ultimately pay for the production.

Exactly. What a bizarre overreaction.

 

[wolbersu2]

How exactly do you want them to do that? Bono's not going to foot the bill to film a live performance, have it filmed, edited, treated, mixed, etc., just to put it out on YouTube.

It was either going to be Apple or Netflix or HBO or Prime or Paramount or any of the other major streaming platforms because they ultimately pay for the production.

How exactly do you want them to do that? Bono's not going to foot the bill to film a live performance, have it filmed, edited, treated, mixed, etc., just to put it out on YouTube.

It was either going to be Apple or Netflix or HBO or Prime or Paramount or any of the other major streaming platforms because they ultimately pay for the production.

I didn't say he should do it for free. It could be on streaming as on physical media as well. And come on, the band belong to the richest artists in the world. They could care a lot more about the people that made them rich.
Same about the Sphere. It's all about grabbing more money. They didn't care that a lot of fans couldn't visite the show. No problem if they would have released something from these shows to the ones who couldn't get to the Sphere. Instead they released something for the Sphere again!! It's really about the contracts and the money. Not about the fans and the music.
It took a long time for people convincing me they do so. But since the Sphere I must say I was wrong.

The boxset for HTDAAB was a step in the right direction with the most wanted release of a new old version of Mercy.

 

[ascender_RS]

Very cool it's been filmed with 3d cameras too as their immersive stuff shot for the Vision Pro is incredible. Surely that means they'll have filmed a Sphere show using the technology too for a future release?

 

[wolbersu2]

Exactly. What a bizarre overreaction.

Let me guess, you've got an Apple membership, went to the Sphere and the Bono solo shows. Lucky you!

 

[JWR1992]

F*ck Apple!!! Why not available for everyone? I did not see Kiss the Future too because of streaming on platforms I don't have.

I will order them on the black market on illegal blurays...
The band has sold its soul to the big business. But that was clear to us since their bad managment.

What a silly opinion lol

They had to release it on something. And U2 sold their souls to big business a very long time ago anyway.

 

[DeVaul]

Let me guess, you've got an Apple membership, went to the Sphere and the Bono solo shows. Lucky you!

What’s an Apple membership?

 

[mikal]

"Fuck you Apple" is always a decent opinion.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Probably just coincidental, but there's a definite ZooTV vibe going on here.

 

[lazarus]

Let me guess, you've got an Apple membership, went to the Sphere and the Bono solo shows. Lucky you!

I've only used free trials to watch AppleTV and I watch their shows via alternate means otherwise, I didn't see Bono's solo show, but I did see the band at Sphere once.

So you're 1 out of 3.

 

[dan_smee]

Let me guess, you've got an Apple membership, went to the Sphere and the Bono solo shows. Lucky you!

I am 0 for 3 there and I think you’re opinion is ludicrous.

Your issue is with the concept of streaming and the way modern media is consumed. It’s the previous generation’s version of “this internet thing is just a fad. By the year 2000 no one will be using it and won’t even know what email means”.

To the exclusivity of the sphere - like, you do understand the show was made for the venue and there’s only one of them, right? They didn’t turn down the opportunity to play Sphere Djibouti and Sphere Phuket just stay be lazy fuckers and stay in Vegas. More home media? I’d love it, but I bet it sells so poorly these days that bands lose bucketloads every time they make a dvd or blu ray. Physical video media is redundant when the digital version offers the same quality and the cost is bundled in with all your other tv and movie entertainment.