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Are you sure you didn't misread your ticket locations? Seems this would have been a much bigger deal...
That's not how it works... The main stage is placed where it's placed for a reason.
Is this the debate over the stupid Ticketmaster placeholder again?I suppose anyone can second guess themselves, but I visited the maps over and over again before finally deciding on a ticket. Then continued to peek at the map to see how sales were going after I purchased my ticket, so yeah . .as sure as I can be. And it happened twice!
In Phoenix, I overheard people bewildered about the seats and I chimed in that it wasn't their imagination -- the orientation was reversed. I deliberately chose a seat out around the b-stage for I&E, then ended up sitting first seat next to the main stage. So again, I know where the seat was when I purchased it and I know where I ended up (and I knew it a few days before the event when looking at the TM seating chart.
For Chicago it was even worse. I bought two relatively cheap $100 nose bleeds up high, but then the orientation was changed and I decided to buy two on the other end because I didn't want to be behind the stage.
Well, I can't prove this to anyone and it doesn't matter anyway, but I know what happened (at least for those two shows).
Would there be a huge uproar over it? Depends. Sitting in my seat in Phoenix I wasn't exactly disappointed -- when the Edge walked over to the side during Pride he was like 10 feet from me level with my seat. That was pretty cool so why complain? For Chicago my seats were basically the same, just on the other end, so the only loss was that i had to dump the first pair of tickets to a scalper before the show and took a loss of cash.
It probably doesn't happen every show but I believe it happened twice for I&E -- and it had never happened before in any venue I've ever attended at an arena -- U2 or otherwise.
Is this the debate over the stupid Ticketmaster placeholder again?
Dude you misread it.
They don't flip seating charts.
A) common senseHow do you know?
A) common sense
B) I work in an arena
I have no doubt that you believed that your purchased seats in a certain location based on your reading of the seating chart.A) Common sense -- when discussing TM?
B) So?
Look, I know it sounds absurd. But I'm sure of what I experienced. Could I be wrong? Well, nothing is for certain, so sure, I won't rule it out completely. But I feel I reviewed those seating charts too many times to make that mistake (twice no less!)
On my Facebook feed I saw 2nd shows are up for msg, Boston and DC. Not sure about any others.
I was in Los Angeles, the stage was definitely flipped. I had two shows, one with my buddy got good seats, the other solo, got a seat behind the stage, ended up flipping me.
I think the blocky diagram with the red zone wings placed randomly against one side closest to where the e stage would be confused people.I swear I bought tix for second Vancouver show at the far end of the stage. Turns out they were almost behind the stage (thankfully could still see screen).
Is it possible I just done goofed? Of course. But I wasn't in a rush to buy whatever popped up, so it's not like I didn't look at the map. I wouldn't willingly buy behind the stage tix when there were others available.
If a lot of people had similar issues, is it not possible something goofy happened with the TM site? Not saying the stage moved from the diagram, but do you not find it odd that multiple people report this for the tour?
Yeah the stage was never flipped in 2015.
Can anyone answer me why people rush to buy tickets on Stubhub and other resale sites today instead of waiting for additional dates to be announced ?
Are they just stupid or have too much money ?
I have no doubt that you believed that your purchased seats in a certain location based on your reading of the seating chart.
I also have no doubt that you misread the chart. Twice.
Admittedly they had a shitty chart, and there is one thing that moved... The Red Zone. The Red Zone's location may have been what through you off. I don't know.
But seating charts don't flip after shows go on sale. If they were going to make a major change like that the arena/promotor would be required by law to notify the customers. It also would have been a major story if all of a sudden half the arena had different seats than what they bought.
I'm sure you weren't the only one to misread that crappy block of a seating chart. In fact I do think at least one other poster complained of the same thing way back when.
But yea... it's a misread, not the arena being evil dicks.
Arenas are designed so that the main stage is on the same side. Even Kanye's floating stage started from what is the traditional "end stage" side of the arena. Are there exceptions? Sure, but very very few. U2 on i/e was not one of these exceptions.
If you ever find yourself with an odd seating chart again, just flip to the traditional seating chart to see which end is what.
at one of my I+E shows the entire arena was upside down. What a fucking disaster that was.
I fucking hate TM - it was their fault. Could not keep my beer in my cup.
You're both right. The initial i+e seating chart was misleading. Here's the original Chicago chart:
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If you don't know that in Chicago, the main stage is almost always in front of section 117, it sure looks like the main stage could be at the right hand end, since Red Zones are usually at the main stage. Later, the seating chart was updated to reposition the Red Zones at the left hand end - which is where the main stage actually was. And where it was always going to be, based on the arena configuration:
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Was the original chart misleading? Yes. Did people unfamiliar with the usual arena placement of the end stage purchase tickets based on an incorrect assumption about the layout? Apparently so. The stage layout itself never flipped; the displayed placement of the Red Zones changed.
As an aside, I suspect the Red Zones were originally intended to be near the e-stage, until production rehearsals. Remember that there were going to be two different setlists, with a larger emphasis on acoustic performances. There was even a string ensemble at some of the rehearsals. I could certainly envision RZ by the e-stage if there was a longer set of songs performed out there, and perhaps that was the band's initial plan. Of course, we all know what happened..
Right.You're both right. The initial i+e seating chart was misleading. Here's the original Chicago chart:
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If you don't know that in Chicago, the main stage is almost always in front of section 117, it sure looks like the main stage could be at the right hand end, since Red Zones are usually at the main stage. Later, the seating chart was updated to reposition the Red Zones at the left hand end - which is where the main stage actually was. And where it was always going to be, based on the arena configuration:
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Was the original chart misleading? Yes. Did people unfamiliar with the usual arena placement of the end stage purchase tickets based on an incorrect assumption about the layout? Apparently so. The stage layout itself never flipped; the displayed placement of the Red Zones changed.
As an aside, I suspect the Red Zones were originally intended to be near the e-stage, until production rehearsals. Remember that there were going to be two different setlists, with a larger emphasis on acoustic performances. There was even a string ensemble at some of the rehearsals. I could certainly envision RZ by the e-stage if there was a longer set of songs performed out there, and perhaps that was the band's initial plan. Of course, we all know what happened..