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A Celebration in Melbourne/St. Kilda March 25 In lieu of the postponed show, if anyone is interested in meeting up and enjoying some pints, I'm planning to meet some people @ 8:00 p.m. on Saturday March 25 at the Prince of Wales Hotel, in the front public bar, on the corner of Fitzroy and...

I've traded on an off since the 80s. The only times I've been scammed are in the past few years. And I'm more and more convinced this scum is the same one who scammed me last summer. The only other time I had a bad experience, the guy (not "Dean Reeves"!) actually reappeared about a year...

I guess the only way to protect ourselves against these scum is to only trade with people already known (w/ established relationship), or people who can provide reliable references; or otherwise, ask them to send first.

This guy is bad news. I too was recently swindled by this scam artist. When we were setting up the trade, he was extremely responsive. I sent him what I agreed to send, and after about a week I emailed him to find out what the story was on his end of the trade. He responded, actually...

mofo23, what is your email address?

abogadalme or Hatchetfish, Any chance either of you would be willing to trade a 5/28 Boston GA for a 5/24 Boston GA?

I think we'll have to wait and see what happens. On the first leg, the added shows weren't available via pre-sale. I would have liked to have seen them go back to the snail mail system. In the Propaganda days, when making the selections, I used to always write a note saying they could...

Kudos and good karma to isabelle_guns. She is a good example of how one's efforts can make the community a better place for everyone. I've never seen complaints when a taper (such as isabelle_guns) torrents their OWN master tape. Taper-seeded torrents are the best and most fair system for...

Blue Room is correct, the demands will start before certain shows even occur. Still no one has answered the question raised in other threads: why don't all of the people who expect downloadable shows pool together some resources, purchase a rig or two, share the equipment, organize tapers...

I still believe the best way to get the really good stuff is through old fashioned trading. This does not necessarily exclude one to one FTP trading (although there are still some old school holdouts who will only trade via mail). Like it or not, many of the great older shows that have...

There is news camera footage of Rochester '87, of the first three songs (Streets, I will Follow, Trip).

This is a good way of putting it. Chrisedge, the "you lose control once you distribute the show at all" argument is unconvincing. As someone else said before on this thread, why bite the hand that feeds? It is true that once you give the show to one person, unless you trust that person...

I agree with everything Blue Room says. The truth is there will always be more collectors (nowadays, even more downloaders) than tapers, for a lot of reasons. Some people might live in areas where bands don't tour. Some people may be in financial dire straits (although, as the white flag...

U2 has a huge fan base, including many tapers. Chances are good that most, if not all, U.S. shows will be recorded. Whether the tapes will circulate, and be easily accessible, is another question. As discussed on other threads lately, a lot of tapers got really irked by what The Scientist...

. . . too many people have the post-Napster mentality, that everything should be available for instant download and instant gratification. It seems to be heading down the same path in the DVD world (torrents galore). I know of numerous tapers and oldtime collectors who aren?t releasing...

... new *older* shows don't really turn up out of thin air; when such shows do pop out, it's because someone did some work and dug them up (and, on occasion, someone lucks out and finds something by chance). People are still out there digging out gems, but some things just don't circulate as...

Buckman?s examples are good ones. And old-fashioned trading, not one-way downloading, is the best way to root shows out of people?s closets, attics, garages, storage bins. Example 1: (this hypothetical is in the time before the JTLA 87 spread like wildfire): X has the LA ?87 VHS master. Y...

Marty, I'm still interested in these shows. Please drop me a line, I have some good stuff to trade. Thanks. u2onetrading [at] yahoo [dot] com

Marty, I'm interested in this DVD. Please email me at u2onetrading [at] yahoo [dot] com for a list. Thanks.