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Yeah I’ll give you that. And Oh Berlin, Soon, The Troubles… I’d love them to be able to reach their former giddy heights of stadium mastery, but I don’t think Edge and Bono are capable of writing those songs/riffs any more. I think the theme you’re getting at is song writing which is less...

FWIW, I think Atomic City is... fine? The most offensive part, for me, is the pathetic guitar break which, in typical Edge style (recent Edge anyway) is a poor little collection of notes, repeated. Best part of the song is the Blondie chorus. But for all that's meh about it, it's not bad...

Dazzled, Oh Berlin is on Vimeo. Type vimeo oh berlin into google and you'll find it. An absolute stunner too. Enjoy!

U2 earnesyly plays Hillsong covers for two hours while Bono switches 'Jesus' for 'America' at every opportunity

The implication is little brothers are bendable as long as they're not on passenger planes. But... i don't know what that means

Finally. A weather thread! Ax sounds like he'd thrive in Greymouth. Massive shoegaze scene there.

Hmmm. I should have put in a sarcasm emoji [emoji6]

There you go

Here's an idea: Put a new tax on all firearms. Say, 100% extra - double the cost. The money from the tax goes into a victim support fund. Perhaps your annual license (is there such a thing?) can increase massively too for the same cause. Will it stop the shootings? No. But it might help...

It's like a cartoon of someone careering down a steep street on an out of control skateboard. I really hope the US stays upright till the end of this guy's term.

But the fact it was a legitimate fear is just wonderful isn't it? Amazing what 70000 votes can do to the world...

A bit late to this party but this one made me choke

And yet... if you look at this Trump presidency from a distance, and I mean time and space distance, he's trucking along as he has been from the beginning. Playing to his base and trusting his self confidence will sway enough of the rest. Still no facts to bury him. Still no GOP revolt. Still...

I knew that would have been axver. Quite happy to light a torch and march with a sharpened pitchfork to his abode, if anyone else is keen... Thanks LN7. Have been eagerly awaiting this and, like the best christmas mornings, the reality matched the anticipation. Huge thanks and respect.

Achtung Poppa

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Gsusfrk, my feeling is it's mostly only fundamentalist religious folk who consider gay marriage to contentious. It was brought into law in my country under a centre-right government. Same in Australia I believe? Democrats really do seem to be a massive distance from 'left'.

Agree with this, though I'd caution throwing any indications that 'open' immigration policies correlate with the left. Historically, and if you look today at 'left' countries ie Scandanavia, NZ, immigration is a huge topic and often treated harsher than it is in the US. But yeah, I'm with...

Someone said it earlier, but the only real solution is a complete ban on guns unless licensed for hunting etc. ie a complete destruction of the 2nd amendment. You folk told me a while back the vast majority in the US don't own a firearm. Is it reasonable then to assume the vast majority...

I don't want to take away from the gun discussion, but there is something else going on here which is terrifying - the drive for notoriety. Such crimes are massively reported/filmed/discussed. If you're cruel and insane and want notoriety, this seems to be the best way to achieve that. Are...

Nice use of the red herring fallacy. For what it's worth I'm a big fan of Obama and habe given his portrait very little thought. But yeah, I guess I must be implying he's a dictator...

I think anyone who believes Hilary Clinton or the current Democratic party are far left, or even 'left', needs to travel outside of America for a spell. Or at least do some reading. Hilary would be very much standard right in NZ. Bernie was promoting ideas that the NZ right (NZ is very similar...

The US needs to install a giant nation-wide cordolaine signal distributor.

Agree re Heartland and Promenade love. Both songs see Bono at his peak lyrically and vocally, and Edge doing that 80s Edge guitar sound as well as he ever did it. Beautiful songs.

I suspect Nick is referring to the "I'm so different and so much more humble than the rest" nature of Obama's portrait. While I know zilch about art, that was my first reaction to it. And frankly I reckon the leaves are just weird. I just don't associate his presidency with leaves... Can...